PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

nmc said:
www.bbc.co.uk

Chelsea: Premier League investigating potential financial breaches by Blues

The Premier League is investigating potential financial rule breaches by Chelsea.
www.bbc.co.uk www.bbc.co.uk

I see chief Rag Simon Stone writing this has omitted to mention the Rags being found guilty but does manage to drag us into it - the vile ****.
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Perhaps the PL will announce today that they are investigating the rags.

Surely there is no way the other clubs will just sit back and say nothing if the rags arent investigated by the PL.

Both Chelsea and the rags have been fined by UEFA for breaking FFP rules, so both must be investigated by the PL

Can of worms time me thinks :)
 
nmc said:
Those that were offered the job and declined - clearly saw the agenda. Quite why Masters took the poisoned chalice only he will know.
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I'm a nobody and even I know that if you are applying for a job running a regulatory body and you get interviewed by two of the companies you are going to regulate, then you run the hell away.
 
give it to gordon said:
Perhaps the PL will announce today that they are investigating the rags.

Surely there is no way the other clubs will just sit back and say nothing if the rags arent investigated by the PL.

Both Chelsea and the rags have been fined by UEFA for breaking FFP rules, so both must be investigated by the PL

Can of worms time me thinks :)
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You’d think so but the PL didn’t investigate Liverpool when they failed FFP nor did they look into the hacking allegations so it’s very much a case of one rule for one, one for another unfortunately. It’s worth remembering the charges against us largely result from a fishing expedition initiated by the PL - they appointed Bird & Bird to conduct an in-depth investigation into our club to see what they could find - that in itself tells you we have been singled out and specifically targeted. The problem for the PL is they are quickly being exposed for the amateur shit show that they are - with weak governance, interference from certain clubs, weak leadership and a complete absence of objectivity and integrity. How football has escaped an independent regulator for so long tells you a lot about the wider governance in the UK - I fear the whole pack of cards will tumble at some point and some of our worst thoughts about corruption in football will be proved true.
 
SilverFox2 said:
As you say surely we are used to City having to 100 percent comply with all rules yet those same rules being virtually non existent for the chosen few.

Do you think this obvious bias will be used by our legal team to defend our reasons to not fully comply?
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I think you are making an assumption around non-compliance which I expect is wholly false, however to answer your question it’s not really a defence to anything we’re accused of. It’s like getting pulled for speeding at 80 miles an hour and telling to court that someone overtook you a couple of minutes earlier. It doesn’t mean you haven’t broken the law.

That said, if we are cleared, which I completely expect us to be, it’s a huge point to be made in public statements, not that I expect us to, lamentably.
 
nmc said:
You’d think so but the PL didn’t investigate Liverpool when they failed FFP nor did they look into the hacking allegations so it’s very much a case of one rule for one, one for another unfortunately. It’s worth remembering the charges against us largely result from a fishing expedition initiated by the PL - they appointed Bird & Bird to conduct an in-depth investigation into our club to see what they could find - that in itself tells you we have been singled out and specifically targeted. The problem for the PL is they are quickly being exposed for the amateur shit show that they are - with weak governance, interference from certain clubs, weak leadership and a complete absence of objectivity and integrity. How football has escaped an independent regulator for so long tells you a lot about the wider governance in the UK - I fear the whole pack of cards will tumble at some point and some of our worst thoughts about corruption in football will be proved true.
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Yep I agree with you.

But this time both the rags and Chelsea have been fined with in a week or two of each other. The PL havent got much wiggle room now. Both charged, both failed UEFA FFP.
If there was a few months between both being fined I could see the PL trying to ignore the rags. These are two close together to do that surely.

Sadly we know the press/media wont put pressure on the PL to investigate the rags as the vetted the PL chairman. As we found out the PL teams could band together against the rags getting of scott free
 
nmc said:
You’d think so but the PL didn’t investigate Liverpool when they failed FFP nor did they look into the hacking allegations so it’s very much a case of one rule for one, one for another unfortunately. It’s worth remembering the charges against us largely result from a fishing expedition initiated by the PL - they appointed Bird & Bird to conduct an in-depth investigation into our club to see what they could find - that in itself tells you we have been singled out and specifically targeted. The problem for the PL is they are quickly being exposed for the amateur shit show that they are - with weak governance, interference from certain clubs, weak leadership and a complete absence of objectivity and integrity. How football has escaped an independent regulator for so long tells you a lot about the wider governance in the UK - I fear the whole pack of cards will tumble at some point and some of our worst thoughts about corruption in football will be proved true.
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Tbf, there is a difference between failing FFP numbers, which is what United have been fined for, and manipulating accounts, which is what Chelsea have admitted to and City have been accused of.

And the FFP numbers rules are different for UEFA and the PL as well.
 
gordondaviesmoustache said:
I think you are making an assumption around non-compliance which I expect is wholly false, however to answer your question it’s not really a defence to anything we’re accused of. It’s like getting pulled for speeding at 80 miles an hour and telling to court that someone overtook you a couple of minutes earlier. It doesn’t mean you haven’t broken the law.

That said, if we are cleared, which I completely expect us to be, it’s a huge point to be made in public statements, not that I expect us to, lamentably.
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Fair points you make G..

Whilst I can see no end to the agenda you mention and it's grip on the media, City and its fans seemed to respond to the allegations in a very positive way.

Perhaps we should just see the agenda as a unique motivation that gives us all a reason to pull together for continued success.
 
Colin Bells Boots said:
Fine by me.

If you act as a pawn for the redshirts then you deserve everything which comes your way.

He's a spineless **** driven by the jealous entitled twats , so tough shit !
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Taking a fall is normally a nice pay off or time at the big house. It will be interesting seeing how this goes.
 
halfcenturyup said:
Tbf, there is a difference between failing FFP numbers, which is what United have been fined for, and manipulating accounts, which is what Chelsea have admitted to and City have been accused of.

And the FFP numbers rules are different for UEFA and the PL as well.
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That's my understanding as well and the ffp breach came about due to how clubs were allowed to factor in covid losses. I think I have read that utd are ok within the PL rules but breached uefas due to how covid losses are allowed.
 
give it to gordon said:
Perhaps the PL will announce today that they are investigating the rags.

Surely there is no way the other clubs will just sit back and say nothing if the rags arent investigated by the PL.

Both Chelsea and the rags have been fined by UEFA for breaking FFP rules, so both must be investigated by the PL

Can of worms time me thinks :)
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Liverpool failed FFP in 2015 n’all.
 
nmc said:
You’d think so but the PL didn’t investigate Liverpool when they failed FFP nor did they look into the hacking allegations so it’s very much a case of one rule for one, one for another unfortunately. It’s worth remembering the charges against us largely result from a fishing expedition initiated by the PL - they appointed Bird & Bird to conduct an in-depth investigation into our club to see what they could find - that in itself tells you we have been singled out and specifically targeted. The problem for the PL is they are quickly being exposed for the amateur shit show that they are - with weak governance, interference from certain clubs, weak leadership and a complete absence of objectivity and integrity. How football has escaped an independent regulator for so long tells you a lot about the wider governance in the UK - I fear the whole pack of cards will tumble at some point and some of our worst thoughts about corruption in football will be proved true.
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Excellent post.
 
halfcenturyup said:
Tbf, there is a difference between failing FFP numbers, which is what United have been fined for, and manipulating accounts, which is what Chelsea have admitted to and City have been accused of.

And the FFP numbers rules are different for UEFA and the PL as well.
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The Rags haven’t had a 4 year investigation (fishing expedition) with the aim to find a failure. We’ve all complied & passed initially.

There's a quote from Chomsky in "Chronicles of Dissent" & like all geo-politics I can see the similarities with how we are treated in football.

The gist is that if you service power, (G14, media) you can say whatever you like, you can (and should) lie, you're rewarded for that.

If you're against power, (City, blinkered crackpots) you need evidence for everything you say.
 
cheekybids said:
The Rags haven’t had a 4 year investigation (fishing expedition) with the aim to find a failure. We’ve all complied & passed initially.
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Tbf, I doubt we’d have had a 4 year investigation either but for the Football Leaks/Der Spiegel stuff. Once those emails were released there was always going to be added pressure, from both rival clubs and the media, for us to be investigated.
 
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