Things you refuse to call by their new name

Blue Mist said:
Mmmmm not sure BUT, they are in Trafford, not Salford or Manchester. Trafford. I don't know what Syky Casual is on about,
Gorse Hill is certainly on the boundary and might even encompass the ground.
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Even though I lived in Old Trafford for a couple of years, I’ve never really understood the boundaries and areas since it all got messed up in 1974.

We can all agree Stretford and Old Trafford aren’t in Manchester because it annoys United fans.

But what are they in? You can’t really say they’re in Trafford not Manchester because those two things aren’t comparable. One’s a City and the other a Metropolitan Borough. Nobody puts Trafford as part of their address. Same as I don’t imagine anybody uses Tameside as part of their address.

All very complicated.
 
I believe the sandwich was originally the creation of the Earl of Sandwich but in a complete reversal to the original post I actually do use its new name - all hail THE BUTTY
 
Stephen230 said:
Even though I lived in Old Trafford for a couple of years, I’ve never really understood the boundaries and areas since it all got messed up in 1974.

We can all agree Stretford and Old Trafford aren’t in Manchester because it annoys United fans.

But what are they in? You can’t really say they’re in Trafford not Manchester because those two things aren’t comparable. One’s a City and the other a Metropolitan Borough. Nobody puts Trafford as part of their address. Same as I don’t imagine anybody uses Tameside as part of their address.

All very complicated.
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Not Manchester, good enough for me ;)
 
Stephen230 said:
Even though I lived in Old Trafford for a couple of years, I’ve never really understood the boundaries and areas since it all got messed up in 1974.

We can all agree Stretford and Old Trafford aren’t in Manchester because it annoys United fans.

But what are they in? You can’t really say they’re in Trafford not Manchester because those two things aren’t comparable. One’s a City and the other a Metropolitan Borough. Nobody puts Trafford as part of their address. Same as I don’t imagine anybody uses Tameside as part of their address.

All very complicated.
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Manchester is a city, along with Salford, but both are also boroughs of Greater Manchester. The swamp is in the borough of Trafford, not the borough of Manchester.

As for nobody puts Trafford in their address, you've not met my missus, but then she also puts Cheshire, so she either thinks it's 1973 or she's trying to be posh.
 
bluesince76 said:
Manchester is a city, along with Salford, but both are also boroughs of Greater Manchester. The swamp is in the borough of Trafford, not the borough of Manchester.

As for nobody puts Trafford in their address, you've not met my missus, but then she also puts Cheshire, so she either thinks it's 1973 or she's trying to be posh.
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Yeah but what is the Stretford equivalent of the ( city of ) Manchester bit? Or is Stretford a town in its own right?
 
Stephen230 said:
I think I might regret this with your knowledge of the exact borders of the Northern Quarter, fresh in the memory.

But I was always under the impression that both grounds were in Gorse Hill, Stretford.
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Both in the ward of Gorse Hill and Cornbrook since the changes earlier this year, think it was Longford previously.

Old Trafford should put a cease and desist letter in to the swamp
 
Stephen230 said:
Yeah but what is the Stretford equivalent of the ( city of ) Manchester bit? Or is Stretford a town in its own right?
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Stretford will be a town in Trafford, like Sale, Altrincham etc.

Gets even more confusing with Bury, Oldham etc that are towns within the borough of the same name...
 
bluethrunthru said:
I believe the sandwich was originally the creation of the Earl of Sandwich but in a complete reversal to the original post I actually do use its new name - all hail THE BUTTY
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So he could continue playing poker whilst eating his tea, so goes the story at least.
 
bluesince76 said:
Stretford will be a town in Trafford, like Sale, Altrincham etc.

Gets even more confusing with Bury, Oldham etc that are towns within the borough of the same name...
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It’s a minefield. Same in Salford, they have little road signs that say what part of Salford you’re entering. Irlam- Salford. Eccles- Salford. etc.

And there’s one outside Sainsbury’s just before the hospital that says, Salford- Salford. My little brain can’t compute.
 
Stephen230 said:
It’s a minefield. Same in Salford, they have little road signs that say what part of Salford you’re entering. Irlam- Salford. Eccles- Salford. etc.

And there’s one outside Sainsbury’s just before the hospital that says, Salford- Salford. My little brain can’t compute.
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Salford - Salford - so shite they named it twice?
 
bluesince76 said:
Manchester is a city, along with Salford, but both are also boroughs of Greater Manchester. The swamp is in the borough of Trafford, not the borough of Manchester.

As for nobody puts Trafford in their address, you've not met my missus, but then she also puts Cheshire, so she either thinks it's 1973 or she's trying to be posh.
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Don’t know where you live but a lot of people in Altrincham and Hale insist they live in Cheshire and not Greater Manchester like they actually do. But the reason for that, apart from wanting to be posh, is that they were actually told back in ‘74 and to this day as far as I know, to continue using Cheshire in their address as it would make it easier for the post office to get their mail sent to the right delivery office.
 
Stephen230 said:
Don’t know where you live but a lot of people in Altrincham and Hale insist they live in Cheshire and not Greater Manchester like they actually do. But the reason for that, apart from wanting to be posh, is that they were actually told back in ‘74 and to this day as far as I know, to continue using Cheshire in their address as it would make it easier for the post office to get their mail sent to the right delivery office.
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Sale, but some websites show it as Cheshire. I always put Manchester just to annoy her
 
bluesince76 said:
Sale, but some websites show it as Cheshire. I always put Manchester just to annoy her
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They were probably told the same as Alti back at the time, to keep using Cheshire, even though it no longer was.

I think it was because although postcodes obviously existed, people didn’t really use them that much back in those days. So people were told to keep using their old addresses to help keep the mail going to where it should be going.
 
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