United Thread - 2023/24

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woody1968 said:
He’s a desperate man who today turned into a mard arse, I thought he might be better than that but no he’s just another in the long line of “pep wannabes” who is completely devoid of his own original ideas - we are so lucky to have the authentic original absolute fucking genius that is Pep
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Liar. They are both bald.
 
aguero93:20 said:
He really is fucking shite. All hilarity, bias, piss taking aside, the lad is absolutely shite. He must wake up every day pinching himself that he's gotten to where he's gotten to on a tiny speck of ability and zero hard work or intelligence.
His agent needs a raise.
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Million Dollar Baby?

More like 92M dollar Bebe.
 
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SebastianBlue said:
Much of the persistence of those situations has been down the supporter pressures not allowing them to actually take steps toward that.
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SebastianBlue said:
Our owners actually saw in opportunity with us, but everyone at the club (and the city)—the previous ownership, the management, the players, the staff, and the fans—wanted a tear down and rebuild. That gave them the freedom to to take many of the necessary but painful actions to right the ship.
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These are very salient points mate for me, and is very much a huge part of their problem.

Think we as a fan base were far more open to major major changes and happy to trust those in charge to take steps back to move forward (probably through desperation as it couldn’t get much worse), theirs ? they feel so entitled to be up there no matter what, there’s no way they would accept that, it’s maybe caused the Glazers to operate by sticking a plaster over it, stumbling from one fuck up to the next, and I’m loving it.
 
Akira said:
They can literally blame the Glazers for anything, can't they? It's almost a buzzword with them now. Goldbridge can trip over his own doorstep and it'd be the Glazers' fault.

I still remember years ago they were saying "Glazers need to BACK THE MANAGER". They are acting like Ten Hag had to pick their defenders from the reserves. Their managers wanted Maguire, Sancho, Antony, etc, all for big money and they got it, some managers don't even get that privilege.

Now that things still aren't as rosy, one narrative is apparently Glazers' fault there's no footballing identity, because of no DoF. They are clearly forgetting Ten Hag was the one who sacked Rangnick and their club just went with his decision, because he is the Big Bossman.
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kippaxwarrior said:
Sancho will be fucked off in the January transfer window.

Absolutely guaranteed
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Not on those wages he won't.
 
RadcliffeRick said:
Plus they had a clean sheet with no baggage. There was no "the City Way" there is no "istory" no knights of the realm stinking the place out. The owners could, and did, start from afresh and create what there is today, and will continue to evolve. This is due to having a management team that has vision and are not hamstrung by "istory". Long may it last.
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There was “typical city” which they said was engrained in our culture. They worked tirelessly for the players, fans & the media to leave it behind.

Gypsy curses, last minute defeats, cups for cock’ups…….. they had a “massive”job on their hands.

I think where it’s helped us was when we became brilliant but had stumbles or loss of form we didn’t have those cunts stinking the place out. If they ignored those cunts for just a bit it would help.
 
SebastianBlue said:
Ferguson had the power the years before the retirement. And the fans made it almost impossible to change that.
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I've yet to meet a rag fan who would have a wrong word said about Ferguson, I'll be reaching for the popcorn if that were to ever happen.
 
gordondaviesmoustache said:
Sorry mate, it’s not often I disagree with you, and I’m somewhat swimming against the tide on here, but of course it’s all ultimately the Glazers‘ fault.

They have executive control of the direction and strategy of the club, including the hiring of senior personnel. The buck has to stop with them because they ultimately have the power to do something about it. Yes, they’ve supported the Club in terms of transfers, but the associated poor recruitment ultimately has to rest with them. If they’d hired the right people (especially in terms of player recruitment) had the right structure in place, and had a workable vision for the club, then United wouldn’t be the shambles they are today. All these things were within their gift to address if they’d had the wherewithal.

The money the club has spent since they last won the PL plainly supports the argument that they are terrible owners, not the other way round as others are suggesting; as much as spending £100k on a twenty year old Mondeo with 250,000 miles on the clock does not make you a great used car dealer. It’s actually a preposterous argument to equate profligacy with worthwhile support.

They are clearly completely clueless and that will infect all levels of the organisation they own and ultimately operate. .

united were imperious when they bought the club and now, twenty years later, they are a laughing stock. Who else could or should ultimately carry the can for that reduction during that period?
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UMS has a game plan it's called chuck money at it and it'll return 10 fold, only problem is it needs chucking at the right thing/players and they're much too thick or conceeted or untrusting to empower someone with any idea of what to do and prefer to keep baconface as the advisor.

A mad Louis/Ragnick combo was the nearest they could have had to pull them out of the shit.

Irrespective of league position this current pile of dross is the poorest quality squad they've had since '74. But not to worry they'll fleece the sheep and just throw more money at it and it'll return 10 fold.

Dizzy as fuck going round and round in ever decreasing circles where the season ends earlier and earlier. We've not even had an August champions moment this season.

Long live UMS.
 
RadcliffeRick said:
ou say Plus they had a clean sheet with no baggage. There was no "the City Way" there is no "istory" no knights of the realm stinking the place out. The owners could, and did, start from afresh and create what there is today, and will continue to evolve. This is due to having a management team that has vision and are not hamstrung by "istory". Long may it last.
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I agree but when you say "istory" do you mean Ferguson.
 
City Raider said:
Not sure whether I’m so biased, I cant see the truth. But for 4-5 seasons now, every time I see United away from home against a proper team, it looks like they’re trying to nick it. So much spent and playing back foot, cowardly football. Billion pound Palace.
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Far from being biased, if anything you're giving them too much credit.

It's not just away from home against the bigger teams, even at home against the lesser sides they predominantly play park the bus hoofball and unfortunately it has frequently worked for them, getting comprehensively outplayed only to suckerpunch the opposition and nick a thoroughly undeserved goal on the break well against the run of play.
 
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