United Thread - 2023/24

[Colin Bells Boots]

He probebly could have assisted with the transition by leaving the team in better shape than he did. Always seemed to me at the time that he was more concerned with delivering that last title rather than leaving a squad that was in good shape to kick on moving forward.

It was/is always about him.

 

[bluemc1]

As Mondays go this is a pretty good one :)

 

[youngbob]

I know, from a very good source, why he resigned, which was that the Glazers, via Woodward, kiboshed his plan to bring Ronaldo back in the summer of 2013, telling him he could only spend £30m net. My theory is that Moyes was his response to that, on the lines of "If you want someone to manage on a budget, then here you are".

The same source, when I asked what he (Ferguson) thought of the Glazers, was succinct. "He hates them" was the response.

It wouldn't surprise me therefore if he stuck around precisely with the intent of sabotaging their ownership and trying to get them out. Fortunately he's failed in that so far, although we'll see what tomorrow brings when the NYSE opens again after the Labor Day holiday.

Hang on, I thought Ferguson was going to retire in 2012 (presumably after winning another title) to spend more time at home and only stayed on for an extra year because we won the league?

 

[bigA]

The epitome of a waste of a fathers spunk

Reacting like the spoilt twat of a child who gets an Action Man for Christmas, opens the box only to find it empty and his dad telling him it's the Action Man Deserter model

 

[Silva2021]

When Ferguson left he should have been more involved in the transition. Not so much on the pitch but more as a director of football who was ensuring that their style evolved.

They sleep walked those first few years if not the whole decade.

I always got the feeling he wasn’t overly upset to see them not replicate his success.

I think his ego quite liked it, not sure he’s happy now but certainly the few years preceding his retirement I never got the feeling he hoped they continued with the same or more success.

 

[Gorton_Tubster]

Go united. They're in the entertainment business and they do provide it.

 

[aguero93:20]

Just a reminder that without PGMOL United would currently be two places above relegation.

That's just without the major corrupt decisions. If they were actually refereed fairly, ie pulled on all their foul tactics, they'd probably be higher up the table, although it would be the championship table.

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

Given that Moyes spent at the time big money on £70m+ on Mata and Fellaini, and that Ferguson has gone above and beyond to back the Glazers during and after his reign of terror, I'm gonna take your trusted source with a pinch of salt.

I think the issue for Ferguson with the Glazers is the 99 questions.

I have no doubt in my mind about two things. Firstly, that Magnier and McManus knew the answer to most of those questions at the time they posed them. And secondly, that they told Malcolm Glazer the particulars around those questions when they sold the shares to him (or maybe before) possibly because they were promoted to do so by Malcolm. Or maybe simply to stick it to Taggart.

I have absolutely no doubt that chain of events informed Ferguson’s relationship with the Glazer family - and it still does today. They know where the bodies are buried.

 

[Always Ali]

"...but, this is Manchester United..."

One of the most vomit inducing, constantly repeated, Rag arse licking lines our media trot out, in some faux indignation when yet another failure occurs.
SCUM

 

[Mike N]

I know, from a very good source, why he resigned, which was that the Glazers, via Woodward, kiboshed his plan to bring Ronaldo back in the summer of 2013, telling him he could only spend £30m net. My theory is that Moyes was his response to that, on the lines of "If you want someone to manage on a budget, then here you are".

The same source, when I asked what he (Ferguson) thought of the Glazers, was succinct. "He hates them" was the response.

It wouldn't surprise me therefore if he stuck around precisely with the intent of sabotaging their ownership and trying to get them out. Fortunately he's failed in that so far, although we'll see what tomorrow brings when the NYSE opens again after the Labor Day holiday.

We know that he is the reason the Glazers were able to buy the club, Rock of Gibraltar etc. No wonder he ‘hates them’! How United fans don’t hold him responsible absolutely baffles me.

 

[blue cigar]

This is Manchester you nited

12 seconds

 

[yeah whatever !!]

Why is it ? and I'm talking about Rag fans, managers and pundits, that when VAR goes their way its always right yet when it goes against them it's always wrong.?

 

[Mike N]

"...but, this is Manchester United..."

One of the most vomit inducing, constantly repeated, Rag arse licking lines our media trot out, in some faux indignation when yet another failure occurs.
SCUM

My brother, who may be reading this, loves to quote Clive Tyldsley - ‘Man United don’t do dull’! Yeah ok.

 

[East Level 2]

Why is it ? and I'm talking about Rag fans, managers and pundits, that when VAR goes their way its always right yet when it goes against them it's always wrong.?

I think that might apply to fans of most teams. It's just that rag fans can't cope with officials not being bent towards them.

 

[blue b4 the moon]

Hmmm let's have a look at what could very easily happen

Wolves (H) 3 points....Going to win the league with Mount & a new swagger to their play.
Spurs (A) 1 point....Difficult away game (don't we know) but caught out playing from the back.
Forest (H) 3 points....Few iffy moments but a penalty gets them over the line.
Arse (A) 0 points...aspire to be at the Arse level, again caught out at the back...early days yet.
Brighton (H) 0 points...Hmm they've been playing under a good managers system for a long time.
Burnley (A) 1 point...Ran their luck but managed a point when GGG or whatever shows 3-1 home win
Palace (H) 3 points...corner turned, going to win the league again
Brentford (H) 1 point...still struggling with passing out but an Intentional break will sort that out.

So 2 titles challenges already & a wonderful 12 points from 24 in the bag, bang mid table with CL games to worry about.

Something tells me it's not going to be their year again.

Tick Tock SCUM.

Thought I'd dig out this pre-season post of mine, I've got them a point better than they actually have!!!!!

 

[Bluearmy]

The rags allowed ferguson too much influence over the club since the early 90s success. He should have just been an important cog in the wheel of their organisation instead he seemed to control everything. They thought their run of success would continue indefinitely but as soon as he left the club crumbled.
Their owners solely see them as a cash cow there to milk every year. They have no hope until the club is sold and ferguson put out to pasture and that's not happening soon. Someone should write a book titled how not to run a football club. They are fucked for the foreseeable.

Milking plastics…. The Glazers could be in no better place. 10 more years!!

 

[freshie]

Don't tell Luke Shaw that...

As if he eats anything that healthy

 

[Prestwich_Blue]

Given that Moyes spent at the time big money on £70m+ on Mata and Fellaini, and that Ferguson has gone above and beyond to back the Glazers during and after his reign of terror, I'm gonna take your trusted source with a pinch of salt.

Moyes spent £30m on Fellaini and someone else that summer, when Ferguson was told he could only spend £30m net. Mata came in January. And I know who my source is and where he got the story from.

And I also spoke to the late David Meek a few years ago. He wrote all Ferguson's programme pieces for 20 years so met with him twice a week. He also told me it was about money. His words were "I spoke to him twice a week for 20 years and he told me lots of things privately. I'd have known if he was planning to retire and I only spoke to him a few days before that, and he didn't mention it. It was definitely a spur of the moment decision."

 

[chris85mcfc]

Must admit, I don't think enough has been said, or done to challenge Gary Neville on what is almost a propaganda machine in his post-match analysis.

His constant uttering of 'the Glazers have got to go' is airing to millions of people across the world, and I'm not sure it's the road that Sky should be allowing him to go down given their 'impartiality' as a broadcaster.

There should be at least a challenge, if not a counter argument every single time he mentions their names, as ultimately it is only an opinion, but one that can inform a lot of others peoples opinion.

 

[Centurions]

Have I missed any rumours regarding Sancho and his "real reasons for not playing"?