United Thread - 2023/24

[tommybooth]

The Bus driver turns down Norway ladies as he would have been out of his depth.

 

[Blue Mist]

Of course, but until he’s actually charged with something, it’s premature, unless these people have seen the evidence.

I guess we were lucky/unlucky* that Riley doesn’t support us and throw her 2p‘s worth at Mendy.

* delete as necessary, whether Mendy still being available being an advantage or not.

There are more and more of these high profile cases that the people involved are immediately guilty. If all it takes for someone’s career to be cancelled is an allegation, then we’d all better watch out. It could happen at any time, to any of us.

There is a premier league footballer who is on bail whilst under investigation for rape. Quite rightly he has not been named because he has not been charged but it is widely believed that he is selected to play every week. That is at odds with the way you are portraying what could easily happen 'to any of us'.
What is more worrying is that this footballer has been on bail, NOT charged for something like18 months. The lazy incompetent met cops should not be allowed to do that to a person. What possible evidence still needs to be gathered ?
You seem to be struggling to grasp that Anthony is playing for a totally dysfunctional club. They have made this decision based purely on money and possible negative publicity. I doubt any other club would.

 

[Mon Autre]

Surely until a person is charged then the employer will not take any action, as the allegations could be false. Any action could be deemed an allegation of guilt, especially for a public figure, as they say mud sticks

People are put on leave/suspension on full pay by their employer for things like this all of the time. It always confuses me when people react as though this situation is unique to footballers.

 

[normskih]

He’s been invited on there to speak on united’s current plight and would have been conscious of that. Coming across all Bertie in those circumstances would have been rude and a bit childish imo. He could have declined the invite, but if he’s accepted it then he’s got to talk rationally about it, which he did.

I’ll speak to United fans rationally about it in similar terms, as long as they don’t play City bingo. If they do, then I take their legs from under them.

I’m sure he’s loving their demise as much as you and me mate, but it doesn’t mean he has to be a **** and rub their noses in it when invited by a united fan to speak about the club.

I think what he said was fine in the circumstances. A club ‘like’ united should not be acting in this way, because any professional football club shouldn’t.

They are a fucking disgusting and disgraceful organisation, and the rot absolutely comes from the top.

I think he said the way they run Utd is the problem and it’s not Ten Hag. That’s right. If you look at it, I wouldn’t say The Sheikh does much of the day to day running with of our club, he owns it, but leaves it to those he trusts and they do and have done a superb job with running the club. The Glazers will leave it to others to run utd but whoever they are, are making a town halls of it.

 

[Blue Mist]

People are put on leave/suspension on full pay by their employer for things like this all of the time. It always confuses me when people react as though this situation is unique to footballers.

I was a consultant for a multi national company. I attended offices in Leeds and was threatened with physical violence by a male employee. He mistook me for someone he wrongly suspected was bullying his wife. I reported it.
The company kept him in work but 'asked' me not to undertake any more work until they had completed the investigation.
Nothing to do with Anthony but as you say, why do we all act so suprised.
Oh he was given a formal warning and I lost around £800

 

[Mon Autre]

I was a consultant for a multi national company. I attended offices in Leeds and was threatened with physical violence by a male employee. He mistook me for someone he wrongly suspected was bullying his wife. I reported it.
The company kept him in work but 'asked' me not to undertake any more work until they had completed the investigation.
Nothing to do with Anthony but as you say, why do we all act so suprised.
Oh he was given a formal warning and I lost around £800

Urgh sorry that happened to you. But yeah, I think there are plenty of professions where someone in Antony's position would be placed on leave while the investigation was complete. Given United appear to have sent a doctor to attend to her they probably know some of what has happened anyway. If and to what extent they've been covering for him will be interesting.

 

[The Lightbowne Cowboy]

In the last 8 years, Rags have had more players arrested than have won trophies:)

 

[Trevor Morley's Tache]

Urgh sorry that happened to you. But yeah, I think there are plenty of professions where someone in Antony's position would be placed on leave while the investigation was complete. Given United appear to have sent a doctor to attend to her they probably know some of what has happened anyway. If and to what extent they've been covering for him will be interesting.

I'm sure certain 'client' journalists will be paid handsomely to bury the truth under some 'leaked' story about some major dressing room unrest or other such nonsense goings on at the Swamp.

 

[yeah whatever !!]

Nice fact for Monday:
Erling Haaland has scored more hattricks for City(alone), 7, than united (all) have scored in the last 10 years.

The only hattricks united have done in the last 10 years is to make those 30 thousand pork pie wannabe fucking hats
disappear at Wembley.
That was some fuckn hat trick.
Oh and P.S. they're not called hattricks anymore................Haattricks ;)

 

[Gordyola]

People are put on leave/suspension on full pay by their employer for things like this all of the time. It always confuses me when people react as though this situation is unique to footballers.

People in the public eye are an exception, as as soon as a player isn't available questions are asked. Different a non-celebrity who, although there will be a circle of people asking, it wont amount to what could be millions and the y certainly wouldn't be in the media. The difference in the cases of the rags is the accusers went public on social media

 

[pauls]

To be fair the unflattering media attention has been a surprise. Something is definitely going on in the background.

I would love to interview all the Managers still alive who took their teams to the swamp from 1993 until 2013.No holds barred,refereeing decisions,Fergie time etc, what they actually thought was going on.The media of course joked about Fergie time and watches when in reality it was downright cheating when in the msm Mcfc are the cheats, for investing in their business.

 

[Trevor Morley's Tache]

I would love to interview all the Managers still alive who took their teams to the swamp from 1993 until 2013.No holds barred,refereeing decisions,Fergie time etc, what they actually thought was going on.The media of course joked about Fergie time and watches when in reality it was downright cheating when in the msm Mcfc are the cheats, for investing in their business.

I'd love to know what Wenger REALLY thought of Riley's performance in the infamous 2-0 at the Swamp (2004) when the Rag's systematically took turns in kicking Reyes out of the game, and Horse face getting away with an absolutely disgusting foul.

 

[Colin Bells Boots]

I would love to interview all the Managers still alive who took their teams to the swamp from 1993 until 2013.No holds barred,refereeing decisions,Fergie time etc, what they actually thought was going on.The media of course joked about Fergie time and watches when in reality it was downright cheating when in the msm Mcfc are the cheats, for investing in their business.

Plenty of skeletons buried at the swamp with the Govan Bully pulling the strings.

Many teams shafted before they ever got on the pitch , and the media licking the despot's arse for fun .

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

Surely until a person is charged then the employer will not take any action, as the allegations could be false. Any action could be deemed an allegation of guilt, especially for a public figure, as they say mud sticks

You’d would like to think so, but Antony has been “suspended” without charge.

 

[Colin Bells Boots]

I'd love to know what Wenger REALLY thought of Riley's performance in the infamous 2-0 at the Swamp (2004) when the Rag's systematically took turns in kicking Reyes out of the game, and Horse face getting away with an absolutely disgusting foul.

Just a normal day out at that shithole I suspect.

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

There is a premier league footballer who is on bail whilst under investigation for rape. Quite rightly he has not been named because he has not been charged but it is widely believed that he is selected to play every week. That is at odds with the way you are portraying what could easily happen 'to any of us'.
What is more worrying is that this footballer has been on bail, NOT charged for something like18 months. The lazy incompetent met cops should not be allowed to do that to a person. What possible evidence still needs to be gathered ?
You seem to be struggling to grasp that Anthony is playing for a totally dysfunctional club. They have made this decision based purely on money and possible negative publicity. I doubt any other club would.

Has Antony been charged with anything?

The player on bail hasn’t been named as he hasn’t been charged yet.

I haven’t forgotten Antony plays for a totally dysfunctional club. it’s why I‘m suggesting they’ve fucked up when it comes to dealing with this.

Your last two sentences make my point for me. Thanks.

 

[KS55]

I think he said the way they run Utd is the problem and it’s not Ten Hag. That’s right. If you look at it, I wouldn’t say The Sheikh does much of the day to day running with of our club, he owns it, but leaves it to those he trusts and they do and have done a superb job with running the club. The Glazers will leave it to others to run utd but whoever they are, are making a town halls of it.

The Glazres have appointed two CEOs, both accountants with no football background. Remember Woodentop saying that there was no connection between performance on the field and commercial income? Or the current one, when City were far outperforming them financially, he said: “You’ll never be bigger than us in Asia” Laughable.

 

[Gordyola]

You’d would like to think so, but Antony has been “suspended” without charge.

The mud was already flying due to accusers using social media and the fact complaints that had been made were public

 

[denislawsbackheel]

Surely until a person is charged then the employer will not take any action, as the allegations could be false. Any action could be deemed an allegation of guilt, especially for a public figure, as they say mud sticks

Quite the opposite.
When I worked in Manchester any allegation against a teacher resulted in an immediate suspension on full pay whether or not there was police involvement.
The a LEA maintained this was a judgement free action to protect all parties.

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

The mud was already flying due to accusers using social media and the fact complaints that had been made were public

Indeed. If players were suspended because some people on social media wrote up some stuff accusing them of this or that, most players would be on gardening leave.

The rags have thrown Antony under a bus here, unless they’ve seen what is coming.