My point was that the likes of BMW don't need state aid, but that the government is happy to hand over tax payers cash to effectively bribe companies to stay in the UK. They did the same with the likes of Sony in south Wales after the mines closed. Guess what happenened when the subsidy stopped.
There is no ever-increasing population explosion. And Russia communist?only a body the size of the EU can resist the wealth and influence of the far right, which was the driving force behind brexit, backed to the hilt by big oil,big pharma, multinationals venture capitalists, vulture capitalists, et al. Politics ? nah insatiable greed for power and wealth, and therefore the arch-enemy of democracy. Russia sees the EU as a barrier to annexing Europe, China sees it as a trade threat, both backed brexit, two major communist countries aligning with the far far right, ?? The world's major religions are implacably opposed to stemming an ever-increasing population explosion in a world facng dwindling fresh water shortages, for reasons that they hide behind fairy-tale like scriptures, never saying the bleedin' obvious, "more babies, more power"
Where's that fiery comet when you need it, ffs.
I'm not sure where this "30% reduction" in car production comes from. The UK built 1.7m cars in 2016 (highest for 17 years) and everyone expected it to go near £2m. It's now a million down on that 2016 high.Not going to get involved in the on-going Brexit debate. It will go on forever.
I did vote leave.
What I will point out is this.
We were told constantly by Remain via 'Project Fear', which was nothing more than political scare mongering throughout the referendum, that the British Car industry will be decimated, with car production being transferred to Europe, with the loss of 1000's of car manufacturing jobs. That hasn't happen. Instead car manufacturers have remained in the UK, invested billions in the UK car manufacturing industry, and created 1000's of new jobs.
In its global world I get to speak to many people from different nations and not one of them can understand what we did. During a conversation with American friends which started off about Trump, it soon turned to us and Brexit where the table was turned to ‘How could your people be so dumb, seems we all have a crazy bunch.’.I don't know about Russia, however, of the Chinese people I speak to who know about brexit believe that it was a stupid thing for the UK to do and just say "Why"?
They are at a loss.
It’s down 30% since pre-pandemic, and the EU was down 22% in the same time period.I'm not sure where this "30% reduction" in car production comes from. The UK built 1.7m cars in 2016 (highest for 17 years) and everyone expected it to go near £2m. It's now a million down on that 2016 high.
Define decimated.
That was largely pandemic then worldwide shortage of components. After all that, EU car production is down about 25% since 2016, UK about 60%. It would be worse if Nissan hadn't had a billion pounds of public money to stay in the UK.It’s down 30% since pre-pandemic, and the EU was down 22% in the same time period.
Of course it’s great but it’s only deluded numpties that think it’s some sort of Brexit victory.So after a hard days graft and just catching up I see that the politics forum illuminati don’t think the BMW news was all that great.
Oh well, never mind.
Back to we have completely fucking blown it we go then ;-)
You said ‘everyone’ is happy with access to the single market. That is plainly incorrect, hence why we are no longer in it. Plenty of militant Brexiteers were, and remain opposed to us being associated with the SM, for ideological, if not economic grounds. Some people are instinctively opposed to being tied to the EU by any means.
They are, of course, mad cunts.
Of course it’s great but it’s only deluded numpties that think it’s some sort of Brexit victory.
Yeah, but …No one has claimed it as a victory, no one.
Like I said, had this been bad news we would have had page after page of numpties using it to suit their own narratives but balance and this forum don’t mix sadly.
Despite post after post telling us the car industry here was dead and every manufacturer would leave, it isn’t and they haven’t.
All we have had is the usual with their “yeah but….”
Balance.
Isn't the patriotic thing to want the best for your country? That was being on the EU.
True.No one has claimed it as a victory, no one.
Like I said, had this been bad news we would have had page after page of numpties using it to suit their own narratives but balance and this forum don’t mix sadly.
Despite post after post telling us the car industry here was dead and every manufacturer would leave, it isn’t and they haven’t.
All we have had is the usual with their “yeah but….”
Balance.
Of course it's good news. 4000 people keeping their jobs that were at risk is great news for them, their families, and their community. Plus every job at a "top predator" site like BMW/Mini creates up to 10 other jobs in the economy.No one has claimed it as a victory, no one.
Like I said, had this been bad news we would have had page after page of numpties using it to suit their own narratives but balance and this forum don’t mix sadly.
Despite post after post telling us the car industry here was dead and every manufacturer would leave, it isn’t and they haven’t.
All we have had is the usual with their “yeah but….”
Balance.
it's the sense of national identification that patriotism brings which doesn't align with being dictated to by the EU on law. I don't mind it to be honest.
Wilko are simply Woolworths, just a bit later with slightly different products. The internet and supermarkets have killed everything.Slightly off topic.
A lot of Wilkos problems are of their own making.
Overly ambitious,(and greedy)owners pissing away the legacy left to them by their family.
Wife used to be a manager with them.
it's the sense of national identification that patriotism brings which doesn't align with being dictated to by the EU on law. I don't mind it to be honest.