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Seen this shite phrase used so many times to justify poor management and profligacy.

Never ends well.
Yep, a phrase that is far more relevant is:

“Look after the pennies and the pounds will look after themselves”

It’s really true in business as once limitless small money is spent on minor needless items/services it snowballs and expenses can run out of control.
 
Yep, a phrase that is far more relevant is:

“Look after the pennies and the pounds will look after themselves”

It’s really true in business as once limitless small money is spent on minor needless items/services it snowballs and expenses can run out of control.

I’ve never known a finance director who doesn’t live by that.
 
She wouldn't, that decision would have been made at an editorial level and would have come from a specific budget. My wife's pretty amazing but I'm not sure she would be capable of being across every single penny spent in the BBC!
I'm sure it goes without saying that it's outside of her remit to decide what is news worthy. She's great with a spreadsheet but not so good at recommending good movies to watch ;)
TBH what your talking about is insignificant in the grand scheme of things. For example when a news story breaks the BBC don't send just one journalist they send one for news, one for BBC news, one for radio 1, radio 2 etc. one from local news etc. etc. etc. That shit happens every day so sending just one journalist to Getafe really is small fry.
My wife introduced the value "more money for programmes" so if savings are made on non-content that is subsequently spent on programming she's happy.
Serious question - Do they send different reporters from each channel i.e BBC1, Radio 1, Radio 2, Radio 4, Radio 5 live etc because the story has to be packaged/dumbed down to each level?
 
I think it goes hand in hand with how the bbc choose their stories along with the chosen narrative. A whole different story but I saw a brilliant John Pilger documentary where he interviewed BBC producers why they chose the narrative, you won’t be surprised that they had answer along the lines of the complaint responses.

So it’s not important in the scheme of things if they choose to watch & report on Greenwood, improve his public profile not when you compare how they report on foreign policy but it’s very similar. Incredibly biased.

When the bbc show bias in sports & lie & play the audience for fools then I don’t trust them with important issues & im sure many others feel the same way.
There is bias in bias. The BBC actually receive the most bias complaints from Rags and Liverpool fans who are convinced they are biased against them and quite often that they are pro City! I suspect that as a percentage of fanbase all bias complaints are about even. "Smaller" clubs tend to complain they are biased against them in favour of any and all "big" clubs.
Out of interest which media organisations do you believe are unbiased?
 
Ask if they sent one of their so called top reporter's to report on Benjamin Mendy's debut for Lorient? A man who spent God knows how long in prison, only to be found not guilty at the high court. In the grand scheme of things, the Mendy story is far bigger than the Greenwood story.
It isn’t really, when you think about it. Mendy was tried and found not guilty. He’s not English and has gone home to resurrect his career. (Not at the high court though)

Greenwood wasn’t tried, but the public have seen “damning” evidence that suggests his guilt. Therefore his story doesn’t have a conclusion, unlike Mendy.

There is no public interest in Mendy. There is in Greenwood,
 
Serious question - Do they send different reporters from each channel i.e BBC1, Radio 1, Radio 2, Radio 4, Radio 5 live etc because the story has to be packaged/dumbed down to each level?
It’s a shocking organisation, a clear example of being funded rather than standing on its own economic feet. It’s shameful how they waste money.
 
BT Sport didn’t even send commentators to the London Stadium for West Ham’s home game in the Europa League last night. They were clearly in a studio watching the game on a tele. Yet the BBC sent Stone to Madrid to watch Mason ‘open your fucking legs you twat I want to fuck you’ Greenwood?
This rhetoric behind the BBC sending people to places to report on news is getting fucking weird.

You're now suggesting that because you think another channel didn’t send commentators to a game last night shows BBC profligacy? It shows to me that TNT don’t care about the quality of their broadcasts.
 
Yep, a phrase that is far more relevant is:

“Look after the pennies and the pounds will look after themselves”

It’s really true in business as once limitless small money is spent on minor needless items/services it snowballs and expenses can run out of control.
Oh their is absolutely no doubt whatsoever that the BBC wastes vasts amount of money (did you not see my post regarding the amount of journalists sent to cover one story?) which proves my point, the amount of money wasted covering this story is insignificant in the grand scheme of things.
 
Serious question - Do they send different reporters from each channel i.e BBC1, Radio 1, Radio 2, Radio 4, Radio 5 live etc because the story has to be packaged/dumbed down to each level?
Indeed that's one of the reasons, their reporting has to be appropriate to the demographic they are broadcasting to. I don't suppose any of us would expect BBC News to simply replay a piece that was originally aired on Newsround rather than do their own.
 
There is bias in bias. The BBC actually receive the most bias complaints from Rags and Liverpool fans who are convinced they are biased against them and quite often that they are pro City! I suspect that as a percentage of fanbase all bias complaints are about even. "Smaller" clubs tend to complain they are biased against them in favour of any and all "big" clubs.
Out of interest which media organisations do you believe are unbiased?
Just reading your posts and THE Finance Director at the BBC is Andrew Kaczor, I’m not disputing your Mrs is a Director but what’s her real title? Divisional Director, Rhona Burns?
 
Just reading your posts and THE Finance Director at the BBC is Andrew Kaczor, I’m not disputing your Mrs is a Director but what’s her real title? Divisional Director, Rhona Burns?
For the exact reason you have discovered Andrew's name I'm not willing to divulge exactly what or who my wife is, if it's all the same with you I will remain somewhat anonymous on here?
 
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I get that this has irked yourself and others and I don't want to detract from your opinion but the BBC (and all other media organisations) spend eye watering figures covering news stories everyday, the £x.xx that this would have cost is equivalent to buying a brew from Greggs on your way home from a hospitality event that cost you 5K. For example, when covering news in war torn countries they have to pay fixers to get them from A to B safely not to mention the specialist security contracts in place and the amount of people that have to travel with them.
But as your all fellow blues and I love you all dearly I will attempt to find out how many people complained about the article, where the complaints went, who responded, what was said internally.....
Sounds like you are connected?

I heard that there was an unusually heavy media presence at the Getafe game. Not just the BBC, but all of the major news outlets were in attendance. Sometimes the decision to cover certain events can be dictated by media traffic, and not missing out on a story that your competitors are all over.

It would be interesting to how many people clicked on the story, to see if the interest was genuinely there.
 
For the exact reason you have discovered Andrew's name I'm not willing to divulge exactly what or who my wife is, if it's all the same with you I will remain somewhat annominus on here?
Fair enough but it would be interesting to see how far she could influence the organisation with reference to the expenditure questioned on here and many other forums and opponent of a state funded TV company. As I said I don’t doubt your wife is a Director but so was I, albeit for my two man Light Haulage business!
 
There is bias in bias. The BBC actually receive the most bias complaints from Rags and Liverpool fans who are convinced they are biased against them and quite often that they are pro City! I suspect that as a percentage of fanbase all bias complaints are about even. "Smaller" clubs tend to complain they are biased against them in favour of any and all "big" clubs.
Out of interest which media organisations do you believe are unbiased?

Great question. I don’t believe any aren’t & I liked the bbc when it was less sensational & bantzy & I trusted their football coverage. I realise my outlook has changed on so many subjects due to the content I was reading & watching so challenge myself to try & understand what is being said without emotion. It’s quite annoying to think how prejudiced I have been & others still are through no fault of their own.

I like to read & watch investigative journalism that uses facts but I have to be aware that I am trusting they are honest.

For instance how many millions have been taken down the slippery path by respectable journalists over “Der Spiegel” allegations.

The bbc shouldn’t be chasing stories about the biggest & they do some incredible stuff which is left of field but pricks like Stones & Roan let them down. Maybe the justification for viewing figures to be funded by the license is driving it.

This id a decent documentary on it the role of media

 
There is bias in bias. The BBC actually receive the most bias complaints from Rags and Liverpool fans who are convinced they are biased against them and quite often that they are pro City! I suspect that as a percentage of fanbase all bias complaints are about even. "Smaller" clubs tend to complain they are biased against them in favour of any and all "big" clubs.
Out of interest which media organisations do you believe are unbiased?
For me it's not a question of which organisations are unbiased.
Apart from the BBC, the others are privately owned by individuals like Murdoch with their own agenda and have to fund themselves.
The difference is that the BBC is publically funded by licence fee payers and has an obligation to be unbiased.
They clearly are not and the fact remains that you can be prosecuted for not having a licence if you watch live TV even if you don't watch the BBC.
Their track record of supplying patronising and insincere responses to valid complaints displays an arrogance within the organisation, safe in the knowledge that they can do what they like without consequence with the knowledge that their wages will be paid by the licence fee payer.
If they were forced to stand on their own two feet like every other media outlet it would be a complely different scenario.
 
Sounds like you are connected?

I heard that there was an unusually heavy media presence at the Getafe game. Not just the BBC, but all of the major news outlets were in attendance. Sometimes the decision to cover certain events can be dictated by media traffic, and not missing out on a story that your competitors are all over.

It would be interesting to how many people clicked on the story, to see if the interest was genuinely there.

That’s not the role of the bbc though is it. They should be afraid of missing the scoop of a wife beating rapist.
 
Fair enough but it would be interesting to see how far she could influence the organisation with reference to the expenditure questioned on here and many other forums and opponent of a state funded TV company. As I said I don’t doubt your wife is a Director but so was I, albeit for my two man Light Haulage business!
I've said before she has no influence whatsoever over editorial content or spending, nor would she want any as she has no expertise in that area. She thinks "The Good Wife" is good TV FFS ;)
 
I was watching the Brighton game last night and it dawned on me that these emerging clubs have not had to contend with grueling European games in midweek.

We will see them stretched and worn down with fatigue and injuries. The likes of Newcastle, Brighton, West Ham, Liverpool and Villa. Even Arsenal had it easy last season by going out of the Europa in the early stages.

I can see Spurs coming in as a big threat this season. Because they will get a full week off between games.

Looking at the upcoming fixtures for the scum, you can see them making some big gains when you consider the above.
 
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