Nottingham Forest (H) | Sat 23rd Sept | PL | Post Match Thread

[remember arthur mann]

It's not the red card, it's Taylor's letting foul after foul go unpunished, not booking a Forest player 2 minutes into the game after he cleared out Foden then booking Akanji for a lesser challenge in an identical position at the other end.
It's enabling the opposition to be emboldened by being allowed to kick fuck out of you with impunity.
Pep has alluded to this but couldn't say so directly.
It's not the first time Taylor has done this.
It's blatant cheating plain and simple.
Leading up to the red card, Gibbs-Shite kicked Rodri twice from behind which Taylor ignored.
By the letter of the law It's a red card but this was a consequence of Taylor's disgraceful performance.
That's why I'm personally so pissed off with Taylor and I suspect I'm not the only one.

 

[youngbob]

One thing I've not seen mentioned yet - when the game was over, why did Taylor and the other three officials all bugger off down the tunnel when all 22 players were still out on the pitch? It was still tense and anything could have happened. There were still potential cards to be handed out, Grealish and Montiel were still having words, but Taylor just wandered off. I thought the referees had to be the last off the field? Red cards can be given at any time but Taylor just decided enough was enough and that the game didn't need refereeing anymore?

 

[The perfect fumble]

 

[Blueboy73]

One thing I've not seen mentioned yet - when the game was over, why did Taylor and the other three officials all bugger off down the tunnel when all 22 players were still out on the pitch? It was still tense and anything could have happened. There were still potential cards to be handed out, Grealish and Montiel were still having words, but Taylor just wandered off. I thought the referees had to be the last off the field? Red cards can be given at any time but Taylor just decided enough was enough and that the game didn't need refereeing anymore?

I noticed that too.
I was going to give the cheating Rag **** a bit of abuse at the end (not that he would have heard me from SS3 but it would have made me feel better for venting at the cheating twat) but like you said he fucked off sharpish.
The only conclusion I can draw myself is that he knew he would get a load of abuse for his blatant cheating from some of our players and coaching staff as well as from the stands and wanted to get out of the firing line asap.

 

[HarrytheBlue]

Brilliant win. We fought for every ball until the last minute.

I thought foden was unplayable at times

Foden and Alvarez both unplayable right now.

 

[HarrytheBlue]

I noticed that too.
I was going to give the cheating Rag **** a bit of abuse at the end (not that he would have heard me from SS3 but it would have made me feel better for venting at the cheating twat) but like you said he fucked off sharpish.
The only conclusion I can draw myself is that he knew he would get a load of abuse for his blatant cheating from some of our players and coaching staff as well as from the stands and wanted to get out of the firing line asap.

Taylor had a mare. But here's where I differ from most of our fans. Taylor is normally ok in our games, and I think a lot of that is down to the scrutiny on him because of his family full of Utd fans. But today - totally inept.

 

[bluemc1]

I haven’t watched much football apart from City last 2 seasons so hadn’t seen Nunes
Was fairly confident in our scouts so knew he’d be a tidy footballer but pleasantly surprised today by his grit and speed
Only going to get better as well
Looks like another hit

 

[Blueboy73]

Taylor had a mare. But here's where I differ from most of our fans. Taylor is normally ok in our games , and I think a lot of that is down to the scrutiny on him because of his family full of Utd fans. But today - totally inept.

Was shite at Anfield and The Emirates last season.
Fucked us over at Anfield and tried to but failed to do so at The Emirates.
The worst performance I've ever seen from a referee in my 35 years as a season ticket holder was his against Chelsea in Pep's first season.
Cost Ian Cheeseman his job on Radio Manchester when he called out Taylor for his cheating that day IIRC

 

[BAB.DAB]

Was shite at Anfield and The Emirates last season.
Fucked us over at Anfield and tried to but failed to do so at The Emirates.
The worst performance I've ever seen from a referee in my 35 years as a season ticket holder was his against Chelsea in Pep's first season.
Cost Ian Cheeseman his job on Radio Manchester when he called out Taylor for his cheating that day IIRC

That Chelsea game, Sergio getting taken out by David Luiz , Taylor puts the whistle to his mouth and then does blow it.
Had some terrible decisions that season, few of our players were lucky not to get serious injuries

 

[havefaith]

Any clips of Pep calling Taylor out for the **** he is?

 

[gazbaz]

One thing I've not seen mentioned yet - when the game was over, why did Taylor and the other three officials all bugger off down the tunnel when all 22 players were still out on the pitch? It was still tense and anything could have happened. There were still potential cards to be handed out, Grealish and Montiel were still having words, but Taylor just wandered off. I thought the referees had to be the last off the field? Red cards can be given at any time but Taylor just decided enough was enough and that the game didn't need refereeing anymore?

Yeah I thought the same, I thought they had to be last off the pitch. He couldn't get away fast enough could he. Really odd.

 

[Blueboy73]

That Chelsea game, Sergio getting taken out by David Luiz , Taylor puts the whistle to his mouth and then does blow it.
Had some terrible decisions that season, few of our players were lucky not to get serious injuries

That's the one, reached for his pocket to take out a red card after Sideshow Bob pulled back Sergio when last man, paused then pressed his fingers against his ear as if he was listening to instructions then got his yellow from a different pocket.
Sergio sent off for retaliation against that odious turd Fabregas after Taylor allowed him to be kicked to fuck all afternoon, shades of that today with Rodri and surprise surprise, Taylor is front and centre.
Taylor is a cheating **** and nobody will persuade me he is anything else.

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

That's the one, reached for his pocket to take out a red card after Sideshow Bob pulled back Sergio when last man, paused then pressed his fingers against his ear as if he was listening to instructions then got his yellow from a different pocket.
Sergio sent off for retaliation against that odious turd Fabregas after Taylor allowed him to be kicked to fuck all afternoon, shades of that today with Rodri and surprise surprise, Taylor is front and centre.
Taylor is a cheating **** and nobody will persuade me he is anything else.

Referees can take advice from their assistants. This is why sometimes they change their minds on decisions.

I would never try to stop you believing what you believe. I’m merely pointing out that initial decisions can be changed.

I don’t get angry much at referees. The Chelsea game that you elided to was a rare exception.

I don’t think Taylor was corrupt today, or whatever synonym anyone wishes to choose.

He decided to employ a very high bar for physical fouls today. Forest benefited from that more than us.

Taylor didn’t make Rodri do what he did.

 

[Axel Freed]

A game of two halves and we were sensational in both. We passed em to death in the first half and we showed our often overlooked incredible mental fortitude in the 2nd when playing 10 against 12.

This was just the kind of gut check we needed with some tougher games approaching. The confidence and sense of togetherness that winning a game like this brings far outweighs the inconvenience of missing Rodri for a few games. Even the red card has its positives - he presumably won’t do anything so daft again and he gets a nice little enforced break.

 

[Blueboy73]

Referees can take advice from their assistants. This is why sometimes they change their minds on decisions.

I would never try to stop you believing what you believe. I’m merely pointing out that initial decisions can be changed.

I don’t get angry much at referees. The Chelsea game that you elided to was a rare exception.

I don’t think Taylor was corrupt today, or whatever synonym anyone wishes to choose.

He decided to employ a very high bar for physical fouls today. Forest benefited from that more than us.

Taylor didn’t make Rodri do what he did.

Taylor is front and centre far too often, if it was a one off I might just write it off as him having a bad day but he has far too many bad days when we're involved.
He screwed us over at Anfield last season after claiming he was employing the same "high bar" that day before disallowing Foden's goal.
The Dippers were claiming a foul on the keeper but Taylor disallowed it for a nothing challenge on Fabinho.
Pep's reaction that day summed it up, he knew Taylor had screwed us over and his "This is Anfield" comments post match we're very telling.
Against Arsenal he gave that ridiculous penalty at The Emirates to try and give Arsenal a foothold in a game they were never getting back into.
Fortunately we won and to quote Pep "we did it without any help"
Pep was very careful with his words today but it's clear as day he knows Taylor is a cheating ****.
Taylor didn't make Rodri do what he did today just like he didn't make Sergio do what he did that day against Chelsea but both were as a direct result of Taylor's actions or more pertinently his lack of actions.
Mourinho is a far more volatile character than Pep and his reaction after Taylor's performance in The Europa League final was also vert telling.
Taylor is either incompetent or corrupt, if he was incompetent he would have been fucked off by now.

 

[cleavers]

I don’t think Taylor was corrupt today, or whatever synonym anyone wishes to choose.

Whatever he was today, he was fucking shite, and he completely lost control of the game, hence Forest getting 7 bookings (I was actually surprised it was only 2 at half time).

No referee should be allowing 10 yellow cards (11 including Pep) in a game, I've no issue with the red, that was stupidity, but of Forests 7, a couple could have got second yellows too, that's the very definition of "lost control" for me

 

[cleavers]

A game of two halves and we were sensational in both.

We really were :-)

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

Whatever he was today, he was fucking shite, and he completely lost control of the game, hence Forest getting 7 bookings (I was actually surprised it was only 2 at half time).

No referee should be allowing 10 yellow cards (11 including Pep) in a game, I've no issue with the red, that was stupidity, but of Forests 7, a couple could have got second yellows too, that's the very definition of "lost control" for me

Cool, send your report to PGMOL.

5 cards were for headrutting and one for hands on the throat, Not sure any of them weren’t a deserved card.

The moan about second yellows happens every game.

 

[Blueboy73]

Showed a lot of character and discipline today coupled with flexibility and adaptability.
We can be pragmatic when we need to be which is a quality we've developed over the last season or so and in my opinion is the reason we were able to win the UCL last season and silence the "you're not a great team unless you win the champions league" wankers.

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

Taylor is front and centre far too often, if it was a one off I might just write it off as him having a bad day but he has far too many bad days when we're involved.
He screwed us over at Anfield last season after claiming he was employing the same "high bar" that day before disallowing Foden's goal.
The Dippers were claiming a foul on the keeper but Taylor disallowed it for a nothing challenge on Fabinho.
Pep's reaction that day summed it up, he knew Taylor had screwed us over and his "This is Anfield" comments post match we're very telling.
Against Arsenal he gave that ridiculous penalty at The Emirates to try and give Arsenal a foothold in a game they were never getting back into.
Fortunately we won and to quote Pep "we did it without any help"
Pep was very careful with his words today but it's clear as day he knows Taylor is a cheating ****.
Taylor didn't make Rodri do what he did today just like he didn't make Sergio do what he did that day against Chelsea but both were as a direct result of Taylor's actions or more pertinently his lack of actions.
Mourinho is a far more volatile character than Pep and his reaction after Taylor's performance in The Europa League final was also vert telling.
Taylor is either incompetent or corrupt, if he was incompetent he would have been fucked off by now.

Ok