Middle East Conflict

[Brightwell’s left peg]

Which One?

They share the same one.

 

[Tim of the Oak]

It makes the news when it suits tbf but off the back of the 2nd largest terrorist attack in history and a large Jewish community in several parts of the UK facing pockets of very pro Palestinian support, they are worried and rightly so for their safety.

Just down from this restaurant anti semitic graffiti was also daubed on a bridge going off reports.

That’s very shitty behaviour but the reality is that, in the main, we live in a tolerant country that welcomes virtually all races and religions.

Incident of this nature are unacceptable but there relatively few of them. Sometimes we can be misled by, for example. Rachel Riley “by coincidence” driving past some scumbags and it being all over the media.

 

[Brightwell’s left peg]

They share the same one.

A cun# of the highest order based on the Old Testament. Loved a bit of genocide himself. He’s probably nodding in appreciation right now.

 

[dronefromsector7G]

To be honest I'm pretty sure there were nowhere near 50 to a 100 million natives in North America.

I think that figure is the whole of The Americas

 

[The blue phantom]

No it absolutely is not.

Do you think Israel would have threatened to turn off supplies if they had not been under a sustained attack?

They shouldn't be doing it as its a War Crime. If they continue for a lengthy period and people die because of it this will be as abhorrent as what Hamas has just done.

 

[Manc Born & Bred]

It’s unusual for this low level of crime to
make the news in the U.K. it’s a shitty thing to smash up the restaurant but this happens to owners of all ethnicities, religions etc.

Free Palestine was also graffitied on a bridge very close by. Obviously coincidentally and yet the Met aren’t treating it as a hate crime. Timing was just unfortunate I presume.

 

[Ballymagash Blue]

To be honest I'm pretty sure there were nowhere near 50 to a 100 million natives in North America.

Recent studies suggest a max of 5.5m. Old world diseases, smallpox etc., wiped them out.

 

[blueinsa]

That’s very shitty behaviour but the reality is that, in the main, we live in a tolerant country that welcomes virtually all races and religions.

Incident of this nature are unacceptable but there relatively few of them. Sometimes we can be misled by, for example. Rachel Riley “by coincidence” driving past some scumbags and it being all over the media.

I’d agree mate, we are very fortunate to live in an incredibly tolerant nation.

 

[Metal Biker]

The people of Lebanon would beg to differ

You seem to be another one ramping up the blood thirsty rhetoric,

Am I? Yet Paul1970's comment wasn't worthy of your attention?

I'm merely pointing out that now going "ooh nasty Isreali's!" 48 hours after the horrific events of the weekend are unlikely to stem their anger or continued bombing in Gaza. They're furious at Hamas and seek their destruction. This is now a war, one they intend to win. It's going to get nasty, collateral damage is going to be discussed more and more.

Just like in Ukraine, it's become a matter of seeing things through to the end and people should not expect things to "die down" after a few talks.

 

[domalino]

Sadly antisemitism is very much a real danger in parts of the UK.

This is the kind of thing that makes this thread and the discussion veer off into slagging matches.

A restaurant has been broken into and had its till stolen. The police say it’s not a hate crime.

So what is the point of bringing it to the thread as an example of violent antisemitism?

You’re talking about graffiti on the same street, seems like if you were vandalising a property because it’s Jewish and had spray paint in your back pocket you might use it, but I’m not an expert vandal.

The Anti Defamation league does loads of research into antisemitism and the UK is always among the most tolerant countries in the world in their reports. Does it exist in this country? Of course, just like every prejudice.

 

[Metal Biker]

They shouldn't be doing it as its a War Crime. If they continue for a lengthy period and people die because of it this will be as abhorrent as what Hamas has just done.

It's a war of attrition, specifically a siege. Cutting your enemies supply lines to force them into surrender is a tried and tested military tactic. The UK, US and European nations have done it a number of times to win wars.

As I said earlier, this is now a war.

 

[TinFoilHat]

No one can disagree with "Going after terrorists."

However, shutting off innocent people's energy supply and water is only going to hurt them.

 

[bobbyowenquiff]

This is difficult because I feel the pain of the Palestinians after being treated like dogs for decades but I also feel for the Israeli people who have slaughtered by hamas and Islamic jihad . Both sides are committing atrocities on a massive scale and I can’t see an end to this .

I am certain that the vast majority of Israelis and Palestinians are decent human beings who deplore the murderous acts we have seen in this region over the years. It is depressing that sectarian hatred never seems to die out. It even rears its head on this forum.

 

[trueblue1972]

You should remove this post.

It’s about as antisemitic as it gets.

I read it and resisted ...some cuntish things have been said here but that crossed the line

 

[The blue phantom]

It's a war of attrition, specifically a siege. Cutting your enemies supply lines to force them into surrender is a tried and tested military tactic. The UK, US and European nations have done it a number of times to win wars.

As I said earlier, this is now a war.

When have these countries stopped Food, Water, Medicines and fuel going into a country with over 2 million civilians which are caged in?

 

[Tim of the Oak]

Free Palestine was also graffitied on a bridge very close by. Obviously coincidentally and yet the Met aren’t treating it as a hate crime. Timing was just unfortunate I presume.

the assumption should be it's a hate crime.

 

[Ducado]

Am I? Yet Paul1970's comment wasn't worthy of your attention?

I'm merely pointing out that now going "ooh nasty Isreali's!" 48 hours after the horrific events of the weekend are unlikely to stem their anger or continued bombing in Gaza. They're furious at Hamas and seek their destruction. This is now a war, one they intend to win. It's going to get nasty, collateral damage is going to be discussed more and more.

Just like in Ukraine, it's become a matter of seeing things through to the end and people should not expect things to "die down" after a few talks.

They can’t, it’s understandable they want to, but the damage and suffering would be too much to bear especially for the US

But war is a lot easier than finding a solution,

 

[The blue phantom]

I read it and resisted ...some cuntish things have been said here but that crossed the line

Nah @MCFC ISRAEL was as low as it gets. Something funnily enough you never commented on. Or simply missed like most folk supporting Israelis actions did.

 

[Metal Biker]

When have these countries stopped Food, Water, Medicines and fuel going into a country with over 2 million civilians which are caged in?

How many wars over the past 2000 years do you seriously wish me to mention?

Hamas surrenders, the bombings stop. How much do Hamas seriously care about the lives of Palestinians in Gaza? You're acting like this is a new thing in warfare. Not all fights begin and end in pillows.

 

[Tim of the Oak]

There's some weird posts on here with people finding ways to get themselves upset. Why not assume that posters see Hamas as barbaric terrorists unless they've said otherwise. It's getting very Scouse on her.