Popped out to the shops before and threw LBC on the radio. Iain Dale was on saying that he was impressed with Reeve but was a little disappointed that she didn’t set out an economic strategy.
I know he’s a disgruntled Tory but surely he understands that if Labour set out how they are going to do things, there will be a large chance that the Tories will just rip it off and repackage it as their own. It’s not like the Tories haven’t set precedent over issues that they could not resolve.
On radio 4 this morning they described Labour policy as being the smallest possible target. I.e. the less they say the more people will just see them as the alternative to the tories. Loads of hard lefty types will hate it but it's not there votes that will win or lose the next election.Popped out to the shops before and threw LBC on the radio. Iain Dale was on saying that he was impressed with Reeve but was a little disappointed that she didn’t set out an economic strategy.
I know he’s a disgruntled Tory but surely he understands that if Labour set out how they are going to do things, there will be a large chance that the Tories will just rip it off and repackage it as their own. It’s not like the Tories haven’t set precedent over issues that they could not resolve.
That’s true last Xmas Starmer indicated raising the Smoking age year by year and the Tories have now pinched the idea, that’s exactly what they do so far better to keep ideas closePopped out to the shops before and threw LBC on the radio. Iain Dale was on saying that he was impressed with Reeve but was a little disappointed that she didn’t set out an economic strategy.
I know he’s a disgruntled Tory but surely he understands that if Labour set out how they are going to do things, there will be a large chance that the Tories will just rip it off and repackage it as their own. It’s not like the Tories haven’t set precedent over issues that they could not resolve.
Is that Labour or Conservative? Have Labour or the Tories costed their plan?They have set out plans.
Initial £1Billion but then improvements to services coming not through taxation or borrowing but from investment from business, for every £1 of government spend they expect £3 from business growing the economy.
Its all a bit 6th form to me I will be honest, wishful thinking if you like but time will tell I suppose.
If they presented an economic strategy that needed a BA(Hons) Economics to understand then they'd be accused of being remote.They have set out plans.
Initial £1Billion but then improvements to services coming not through taxation or borrowing but from investment from business, for every £1 of government spend they expect £3 from business growing the economy.
Its all a bit 6th form to me I will be honest, wishful thinking if you like but time will tell I suppose.
If they presented an economic strategy that needed a BA(Hons) Economics to understand then they'd be accused of being remote.
But then again maybe the electorate would rather leave it to the posh boys that went to Eton and Oxford because they only do what's best for everyone.
In what way are Labour worse than this current lot of Conservatives?After listening to two of them I actually wouldn't mind Tories staying in power. And I fucking hate the motherfuckers.
I might counter-ask 'in what way are Starmer's Labour better than this current lot of Conservatives?' Purely politically.In what way are Labour worse than this current lot of Conservatives?
Do you believe that Labour could be more corrupt and negligent? Is it possible for them to be?
If you are judging Labour’s actions from 15 years ago, your point seems moot.I might counter-ask 'in what way are Starmer's Labour better than this current lot of Conservatives?' Purely politically.
And with regard to negligence and corruption, we just need to jump back to the end of the first New Labour term, when running the country became a side-show to all the bullshit we now know about. I mean, Mendelson ghost has been wafting through this conference.
But I ll be honest with you, just hearing Reeves talking about The Office for Budget Responsibility being brought in by law to be able to veto any further government's budget tel's me enough about Starmer's government and no surprise Mark Carney loved it. Everything else by her and him was redundant, we are just changing colour shades of the society that doesn't wan't progress and change and sees conservatism ( the small c) as a way forward.
Unfortunately we need to judge this Labour party by the actions of the Old New one, because they are almost like New Labour 2.0, but worse actually by being policy light.If you are judging Labour’s actions from 15 years ago, your point seems moot.
Labour will never get elected by running manifestos that scare the markets. It’s far better to get in, hopefully with a huge majority, and then start to change the system. That’s how I would coordinate their campaign.
Fair enough. You just sound like a Tory voter, given you can’t get yourself to vote for any Labour government that is pure and left enough.Unfortunately we need to judge this Labour party by the actions of the Old New one, because they are almost like New Labour 2.0, but worse actually by being policy light.
Having a keynote that OBR will became the non-elected body which is effectively a decision maker in how the country is run, and which is totally big business dependent and friendly is not changing the system.
Or just accept I as I dd, we are basically conservative and reactionary country that doesn't want the change.
Always voted Labour, but not this time. Met him during the time of London riots, he came up as a very decent man, but unfortunately not my kind of politician. And now I find his political stance utterly repugnant.Fair enough. You just sound like a Tory voter, given you can’t get yourself to vote for any Labour government that is pure and left enough.
The most important aspect of this next election is to rid Parliament of the 2019 MPs elected to be Boris and Brexit shills. We need politicians with brains again.
Ok. That’s your choice.Always voted Labour, but not this time. Met him during the time of London riots, he came up as a very decent man, but unfortunately not my kind of politician. And now I find his political stance utterly repugnant.
After listening to two of them I actually wouldn't mind Tories staying in power. And I fucking hate the motherfuckers.
How will they build 1.5m new homes without using up more wildlife habitat? Genuine question, not a dig at any political party, I’m just concerned that they all say they will restore nature and habitat loss, fight climate change. But how can that fit with such a vast scale of house building?
Traditionally, Labour haven‘t been the best at equipping our armed forces (though neither have the Tories to be honest!), but given the state of the world, and increased threat from a belligerent Russia, will they spend enough to actually give the guys and girls whose lives will be on the line defending our freedom the equipment and support they need? We need more jets, more drones and more ships.
What are the party’s plans for increasing investment in UK business and science?