City Matters thread

Tim of the Oak said:
Sounds poor at Arsenals. We are having a few shit ends. Little atmosphere Vs Sheff Utd (until the winner) and a wolves too. I think many Blues scapegoating Kalvin Phillips and Cole Palmer (during his transfer) hasn’t helped the atmosphere. We aren’t unified atm.

I wasn’t at Arsenal but I would let the Derby go 100% to points and then I’d be guaranteed a ticket, if I wanted to go.
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With respect, that's a load of rubbish. What it is is that each of the away ends, Burnley aside, don't owe to a good atmosphere.

Wolves and Sheff U are spread a long way across with no roof to bounce off meaning chants don't travel well and at Arsenal, you're surrounded by home fans above and to the sides. There's exceptions at all 3 of those grounds but usually they are a tough gig to get going.
 
Mad Eyed Screamer said:
Anyone believing that the supporters club is there to challenge the club is misguided
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Wasn't the unofficial supporters club (can't remember the actual name, possibly independent supporters club) formed about thirty years ago as the officials had a clause in their constitution forbidding criticism of the club. This was at a time when most fans wanted the removal of PJS but the supporters club couldn't support the motion.
 
Tim of the Oak said:
Sounds poor at Arsenals. We are having a few shit ends. Little atmosphere Vs Sheff Utd (until the winner) and a wolves too. I think many Blues scapegoating Kalvin Phillips and Cole Palmer (during his transfer) hasn’t helped the atmosphere. We aren’t unified atm.

I wasn’t at Arsenal but I would let the Derby go 100% to points and then I’d be guaranteed a ticket, if I wanted to go.
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I actually thought the atmosphere was good at arsenal maybe it was just where I was stood constantly singing in my block. And I always find the atmosphere at wolves pretty poor due to the lay out
 
East Level 2 said:
Wasn't the unofficial supporters club (can't remember the actual name, possibly independent supporters club) formed about thirty years ago as the officials had a clause in their constitution forbidding criticism of the club. This was at a time when most fans wanted the removal of PJS but the supporters club couldn't support the motion.
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Centenary supporters club I think it was called
 
wolfie1988 said:
With respect, that's a load of rubbish. What it is is that each of the away ends, Burnley aside, don't owe to a good atmosphere.

Wolves and Sheff U are spread a long way across with no roof to bounce off meaning chants don't travel well and at Arsenal, you're surrounded by home fans above and to the sides. There's exceptions at all 3 of those grounds but usually they are a tough gig to get going.
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How many excuses do you want. The away end should be loud every week.
 
Tim of the Oak said:
How many excuses do you want. The away end should be loud every week.
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Only once do I ever remember us having a good atmosphere at Wolves (de Bruyne midweek masterclass the other year).

Wolves forum were saying we were the best they’ve ever heard because usually every set of away fans are rubbish there due to the shallow tier. It’s a perfect away end for the home club there at Wolves, it’s almost impossible to get a good atmosphere going if you’re away fans, unless the home crowd are quiet (which is seldom as they’re one of the best in the Prem).

There are far too many daytrippers in our Arsenal, Chelsea and Spurs away ends… we’re always shite there n’all. It’s a disgrace that so many non-City fans get to land tickets for our away games, but it’s rife for London aways.
 
Psychedelic Casual said:
Only once do I ever remember us having a good atmosphere at Wolves (de Bruyne midweek masterclass the other year).

Wolves forum were saying we were the best they’ve ever heard because usually every set of away fans are rubbish there due to the shallow tier. It’s a perfect away end for the home club there at Wolves, it’s almost impossible to get a good atmosphere going if you’re away fans, unless the home crowd are quiet (which is seldom as they’re one of the best in the Prem).

There are far too many daytrippers in our Arsenal, Chelsea and Spurs away ends… we’re always shite there n’all. It’s a disgrace that so many non-City fans get to land tickets for our away games, but it’s rife for London aways.
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Yes the layout at Wolves isn’t great for away fans: That said, no atmosphere at Sheff Utd for most of the game and our end was full of regulars. 2 guys behind me at Wolves did nothing but moan the whole game. They weren’t tourists. There wasn’t a great vibe at Wolves and I think that’s partly because some spoilt fans just have a negative outlook.

Did Arsenal and Wolves go to about 18k. Plus all the 18-25, pull through tickets etc. credit to the Blues who get behind the team regardless.
 
Mcfc1.9.8.0 said:
I actually thought the atmosphere was good at arsenal maybe it was just where I was stood constantly singing in my block. And I always find the atmosphere at wolves pretty poor due to the lay out
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For what it's worth, I could hear our fans several times on Sunday when watching the game on TV at home. I'd actually argue that I could hear our fans more times than I did back in February when we won 3-1, and some of the previous matches too. Not done Arsenal away myself since the 2016/17 season but even back then the away end was populated with a lot of touristy types and it was impossible to get any songs going from where I was. I'd imagine it's probably even worse for our games at the Emirates these days so to get any kind of atmosphere going is a decent effort.
 
Mad Eyed Screamer said:
Initially the Independent Supporters Association but City's board apparently weren't too keen on the Independant bit and asked the ISA to change names!
They became.the Centenary Supporters Association- The CSA.
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Didn't they eventually merge with the OSC after the Sheikh took over? Vaguely remember something along those lines, but could be mistaken. :-)
 
Mad Eyed Screamer said:
Anyone believing that the supporters club is there to challenge the club is misguided
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Maybe not challenge the club per say, but they represent lots of season ticket holders. So surely things like ticket distribution for away games is an issue that affects large numbers of their members?

They have a voice that could create change or make the club listen. I guess it’s more of a wider point of who stands up for city fans with issues like this?
 
lancs blue said:
Derby tickets are not exactly flying out, there were about 450 left when I got mine just after 10 and they've only shifted about 50 since then.
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373 left now, will sell out tomorrow. Should go lower but the club have creamed plenty off the top for their mates. Means we will have another away end full of 'customers'.
 
Eds said:
373 left now, will sell out tomorrow. Should go lower but the club have creamed plenty off the top for their mates. Means we will have another away end full of 'customers'.
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Who is 'the club' in this case? Who is actually giving the instruction on a significant percentage of the small away allocation to be given to what I call 'non-regulars'?
 
Prestwich_Blue said:
It's always been the same at the swamp. Before the glory years, I regularly got tickets for Arsenal, Spurs, Liverpool, Everton but never for united.
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I could always get a ticket for the derby. I haven't for the last four. I don't think anyone could have overtaken me points wise in that time, just an increasing number going to non points.
 
I could, but won't as I will never pay a penny towards that place, get a ticket for this match. I appear to be eligible for most of the aways. I suppose because over the years I've been all over the place. Had a ball (pardon the pun) and met some brilliant City fans as well as great fans from some of the other clubs around Europe etc. But I've hung up my travelling boots. :-)
THE BEST TEAM IN THE LAND AND ALL THE WORLD. :-)
 
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