Arsenal away tickets

[Danny Hoekman]

And the hospitality
I know a lot of people in hospitality that don’t even bother applying for away games if they don’t want to go.
Those people generally have enough dosh to not care about making a few quid from selling on aways…

...and I know someone who has access to any away game he wants. He isn't a season ticket holder, very rarely goes to home games and cherry picks what away games he fancies. Just sayin'.

 

[East Level 2]

...and I know someone who has access to any away game he wants. He isn't a season ticket holder, very rarely goes to home games and cherry picks what away games he fancies. Just sayin'.

Cool story.
Give us a clue though. Does he know someone with loads of points, or someone with a hospitality ST, or does he know a player or senior staff member?

 

[Invisible Man's Bandage]

No new Gold SCs issued for the last two years. Any non-renewals sold at match day prices.

Match day prices increasing massively (sic)

Most in-demand away match tickets being siphoned off to the highest bidders.

Can anyone spot a trend here? Yes, it's all about maximising income so from a club commercial perspective they will think why should we 'give away' away tickets just because a large proportion of the support base has been going for years. Equally, they won't be thinking that they will need this core support 'if' we decline in the future as they won't be here by then. You have to assume that this is being driven by demands from the very top so either Khaldoon or our owner. Football at the top level is a business first and foremost. Yes that requires footballing success but the days of moderately wealthy local businessmen running them as an interest or because they are actually supporters are over.

What are the chances of changing the club's strategy on any of the issues at the beginning of my rambling post? Zero in my view.

 

[Danny Hoekman]

Cool story.
Give us a clue though. Does he know someone with loads of points, or someone with a hospitality ST, or does he know a player or senior staff member?

Family member with hospitality ST.

 

[liamctid]

I'd say the current way of allocating tickets needs a shake up. It can't be right that ST holders of 10+ years have no chance of an away ticket. There needs to be some sort of ballot taking place for ST holders of at least 5 years. I'm sure I'll take some pelters from the 25.000+ points holders, but we need to open it up to long term fans and at the same time remove the tourists from the away following.

I wouldn't say this is a "pelter" from someone who is over those points, but I think the club would only give a ballot on a % within the current (alleged!) 55% of tickets which go to fans points total, which really for me is not what we want as a fanbase, we want our away end to be filled with proper supporters as much as it can be.

More season ticket holders should have the opportunity to watch City away from home and as much as I've posted on here over the years pointing out that there are plenty of opportunities to watch City away if you look beyond the glamour fixtures, it does feel like more tickets are getting in the hands of people who have very little feelings towards the club - unfortunately I don't think City want this to stop and if anything they want to encourage it. The word "transparency" has been used a lot over the years regarding ticket allocations, I don't think we'll ever really get it.

I was at Arsenal on Sunday and I earwigged the two American's behind me say one was a City fan and one was an Arsenal fan, sadly I've just become a bit numb to the whole thing, Arsenal has always been one of those fixtures which attracts the tourist types.

 

[kinkyblue]

And the hospitality
I know a lot of people in hospitality that don’t even bother applying for away games if they don’t want to go.
Those people generally have enough dosh to not care about making a few quid from selling on aways…

Away games for hospitality are balloted so no guarantee of getting them

 

[Corky]

Teams may have offered other increased allocations on a reciprocal basis, that is the only way we could ever increase allocations and mitigate the current issue to some degree. While some grounds would make this difficult, the £30 away cap has makes it impossible from a financial perspective.

 

[East Level 2]

Family member with hospitality ST.

Cheers, that would have been my guess. But I doubt there is anything that can be done to stop ticket transfers.

 

[Mcfc1.9.8.0]

Well the Trafford United game is an irrelevance so Gunners more important. They probably play ‘better’ football than Trafford. :-) :-)

That’s true but the cynic in me says maybe the “newer over seas branches” find London a better option for tourism:)

Or maybe a lot think I’ve no hope in a United ticket I’ll go for an Arsenal one instead

 

[mcfcmatt]

Away games for hospitality are balloted so no guarantee of getting them

Depends on you tier ;)

 

[blue44]

Depends on you tier ;)

I know someone too,he gets 2 tickets for any away game he wants,tbf,he is home and away everywhere,every game,and the last couple of years gets 3 when he wants.

 

[mayo31]

That’s true but the cynic in me says maybe the “newer over seas branches” find London a better option for tourism:)

Or maybe a lot think I’ve no hope in a United ticket I’ll go for an Arsenal one instead

Overseas branches should not get access to away tickets unless the person going has required points

Plenty of seats at the etihad and let’s be honest that is an away game for them

 

[Originals]

Overseas branches should not get access to away tickets unless the person going has required points

Plenty of seats at the etihad and let’s be honest that is an away game for them

I was speaking to someone recently who lives in Manchester who is a member of the crete branch and another - He said they only have 13 members but I thought branches had to have more members than that and they got 2 for United away. Whilst its always who you know surely having members who are Manchester based beats the point of being an overseas branch.

 

[Tim of the Oak]

No new Gold SCs issued for the last two years. Any non-renewals sold at match day prices.

Match day prices increasing massively (sic)

Most in-demand away match tickets being siphoned off to the highest bidders.

Can anyone spot a trend here? Yes, it's all about maximising income so from a club commercial perspective they will think why should we 'give away' away tickets just because a large proportion of the support base has been going for years. Equally, they won't be thinking that they will need this core support 'if' we decline in the future as they won't be here by then. You have to assume that this is being driven by demands from the very top so either Khaldoon or our owner. Football at the top level is a business first and foremost. Yes that requires footballing success but the days of moderately wealthy local businessmen running them as an interest or because they are actually supporters are over.

What are the chances of changing the club's strategy on any of the issues at the beginning of my rambling post? Zero in my view.

Season cards go up by half the rate of inflation. Roel and Danny (and others) are tasked with increasing the Club’s income by at least the rate of inflation. Match day ticket prices and hospitality offerings increase.

 

[Invisible Man's Bandage]

Season cards go up by half the rate of inflation. Roel and Danny (and others) are tasked with increasing the Club’s income by at least the rate of inflation. Match day ticket prices and hospitality offerings increase.

Exactly, hence the drive to reduce the overall number of SC holders. The club view currently is that they aren't needed to sell out so less of them is better. I can't see any new SCs being issued for the foreseeable future so if you have one think long and hard before giving it up.

From a commercial aspect I can see why people like me who have been match going for 60 years aren't exactly the target demographic :)

 

[Northerndave]

Season cards go up by half the rate of inflation. Roel and Danny (and others) are tasked with increasing the Club’s income by at least the rate of inflation. Match day ticket prices and hospitality offerings increase.

Sorry Tim, I disagree. Season Tickets have gone up well over the rate of inflation for over a decade all apart from one year. It feels like a deliberate policy to price people out and make more seats available for fans willing to pay £70 a match.

The Dippers started the policy years ago when they realised fans from Norway and Surrey would pay a fortune for seats, so reduced the ST fanbase by attrition. We are on the same path.

Just think, if Ehrling was paid 'just' 27 million a year instead of 28 million, we could have frozen prices for ST holders for years.

 

[Mcfc1.9.8.0]

Overseas branches should not get access to away tickets unless the person going has required points

Plenty of seats at the etihad and let’s be honest that is an away game for them

Don’t think that’s fair now myself who’s to say they don’t go to home games as well . I do agree with you should need the required number of points but that should go across the board with all branches

 

[mayo31]

Don’t think that’s fair now myself who’s to say they don’t go to home games as well . I do agree with you should need the required number of points but that should go across the board with all branches

The club knows who goes to games, they can administer this

 

[ViennaWeekend]

Unfortunately you are spot on and it reflects yet another gap between the fans and the club. The lack of transparency as to where these tourists are coming from is telling.

I mean they do it at home games. Often up in EL3 I've felt like an away fan as I'm surrounded by tourists who haven't a scooby that cheering for the other team to score may result in a dig in the back. Stewards are next to useless, unless a brawl broke out they would do nothing and even then they'd probably do fuck all anyway. Rags and Dipper games are always close to kicking off.

The club don't seem to care about our fanbase at all.....it's all about maximising profit. They seem not to give a royal shit.

Arsenal away was probably the one away game I could get a ticket for, from the Supporters club, now with the Tarquin revival they are impossible to get hold of. Where were we when they were shit !

I'd say the current way of allocating tickets needs a shake up. It can't be right that ST holders of 10+ years have no chance of an away ticket. There needs to be some sort of ballot taking place for ST holders of at least 5 years. I'm sure I'll take some pelters from the 25.000+ points holders, but we need to open it up to long term fans and at the same time remove the tourists from the away following.

Great point. Domestic supporter club should get zero.

If you are that great a supporter you should have points or a seasoncard.

Take their 20% and ballot them. Also pull through should be restricted to a certain number a year.

 

[Maccblue]

Don’t think that’s fair now myself who’s to say they don’t go to home games as well . I do agree with you should need the required number of points but that should go across the board with all branches

In that case the individual should get their own tickets
No need for an OSC application