The Labour Party

domalino said:
Hmm let’s get this straight.

Sunak’s speech.
- Cancelled HS2 after a week of denials.
- Smoking ban
- Renaming A Levels and T Levels again.
- Farage welcome in the party.


Starmer Speech.
- 1.5m new homes. Tax on foreigners buying houses which will raise £25m a year to clear the planning backlog.
- Set up a covid fraud recovery department
- close non-Dom tax loophole to raise £3.6B a year ringfenced for the NHS


And you think Sunak’s conference went better?
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Please read my posts if you comment me, please! I didn't mention Sunak anywhere, nor the Tory conference. I am not interested in that at all, as I Know what to expect.

Regarding Starmer's speech
-1.5m new homes. :: he won't build 10000 homes with OBR's role as Reeves put forward, he won't do ANYTHING with OBR in it suggested role.
-Tax on foreigners buying houses which will raise £25m a year to clear the planning backlog: 25 mil a year, really!!!!! YOu cannot buy a PL sub for that money. By the way, the same foreigners that were fucked by Brexit in and out, the very thing he is terrified to mention even!
-Set up a covid fraud recovery department - to do what exactly? To set up a criminal investigation against the previous government, to prove it was a criminal act and then what....take the money from the firms who legally went for auctioned contracts. Good luck with that. My wife would love opportunity do rep those firm and earn some dosh.
-close non-Dom tax loophole to raise £3.6B a year ringfenced for the NHS :: this is going to happen the same year when Bournmouth wins PL title. I mean this is bullshit mate, this non-dom crap might have started happening if Corbyn/McDonnell were voted in. He wants to repair, he doesn't want to change, but without some fundamental change it is not going to happen. Truss experienced that and they were her mates.
 
SamBlue said:
Please read my posts if you comment me, please! I didn't mention Sunak anywhere, nor the Tory conference. I am not interested in that at all, as I Know what to expect.

Regarding Starmer's speech
-1.5m new homes. :: he won't build 10000 homes with OBR's role as Reeves put forward, he won't do ANYTHING with OBR in it suggested role.
-Tax on foreigners buying houses which will raise £25m a year to clear the planning backlog: 25 mil a year, really!!!!! YOu cannot buy a PL sub for that money. By the way, the same foreigners that were fucked by Brexit in and out, the very thing he is terrified to mention even!
-Set up a covid fraud recovery department - to do what exactly? To set up a criminal investigation against the previous government, to prove it was a criminal act and then what....take the money from the firms who legally went for auctioned contracts. Good luck with that. My wife would love opportunity do rep those firm and earn some dosh.
-close non-Dom tax loophole to raise £3.6B a year ringfenced for the NHS :: this is going to happen the same year when Bournmouth wins PL title. I mean this is bullshit mate, this non-dom crap might have started happening if Corbyn/McDonnell were voted in. He wants to repair, he doesn't want to change, but without some fundamental change it is not going to happen. Truss experienced that and they were her mates.
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Now that you’ve decided who you aren’t voting for, how will you decide who you will vote for, given you have no interest in any of them?
 
SamBlue said:
Please read my posts if you comment me, please! I didn't mention Sunak anywhere, nor the Tory conference. I am not interested in that at all, as I Know what to expect.

Regarding Starmer's speech
-1.5m new homes. :: he won't build 10000 homes with OBR's role as Reeves put forward, he won't do ANYTHING with OBR in it suggested role.
-Tax on foreigners buying houses which will raise £25m a year to clear the planning backlog: 25 mil a year, really!!!!! YOu cannot buy a PL sub for that money. By the way, the same foreigners that were fucked by Brexit in and out, the very thing he is terrified to mention even!
-Set up a covid fraud recovery department - to do what exactly? To set up a criminal investigation against the previous government, to prove it was a criminal act and then what....take the money from the firms who legally went for auctioned contracts. Good luck with that. My wife would love opportunity do rep those firm and earn some dosh.
-close non-Dom tax loophole to raise £3.6B a year ringfenced for the NHS :: this is going to happen the same year when Bournmouth wins PL title. I mean this is bullshit mate, this non-dom crap might have started happening if Corbyn/McDonnell were voted in. He wants to repair, he doesn't want to change, but without some fundamental change it is not going to happen. Truss experienced that and they were her mates.
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Which was the last government you were happy with?
 
Labour are going to win the next election, some aspects of living might improve but nothing major and not for the majority of people. Overall nothing will change. Tories will lambast them for their failures, we might get a hung parliament or two and then they'll get back in power again.

It's just what we do here.
 
Magicpole said:
I have more chance of shagging Emily Blunt in the staff room at dinner time today.
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What do you want from this next election?

A continuation of the Tory party or a Labour victory?

There are no other options.

Being idealistic about Labour means 5 more years of what we have now.
 
PPT said:
The SNP are a totally busted flush. They are done. Labour will win circa 25+ seats in Scotland.at the next election.
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Do you want to bet? Charity of our choice £100, post proof of donation when you lose? :)

Ofcourse you could be right. They used to have over 40. Getting 25 would be shit. Plus, even if we all voted for they useless bastards, it wouidnt have been enough to stop Bawbag and I never rule out the English putting them back in. Never. You have form.
 
Magicpole said:
Do you want to bet? Charity of our choice £100, post proof of donation when you lose? :)

Ofcourse you could be right. They used to have over 40. Getting 25 would be shit. Plus, even if we all voted for they useless bastards, it wouidnt have been enough to stop Bawbag and I never rule out the English putting them back in. Never. You have form.
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Done.
Bet taken.
 
PPT said:
The SNP are a totally busted flush. They are done. Labour will win circa 25+ seats in Scotland.at the next election.
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I can see this. Same in Wales were voting Plaid is always a risk as its a split of the vote. Anglesey is a classic example where 60% of votes were split between them and labour and the tories snuck in on 31%.

Given how despised the tories are and without the toxic Corbyn factor I can see a lot of people backing Labour to really make it a safe anti tory play.

SNP have had a good run, but independence seems no nearer.
 
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Gareth Barry Conlon said:
I can see this. Same in Wales were voting Plaid is always a risk as its a split of the vote. Anglesey is a classic example where 60% of votes were split between them and labour and the tories snuck in on 31%.

Given how despised the tories are and without the toxic Corbyn factor I can see a lot of people backing Labour to really make it a safe anti tory play.

SNP have had a good run, but independence seems no nearer.
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To me this Tory government has a John Major feel about it. Whilst Starmer ain’t no Tony Blair he’s on for a comfy 80+ seat majority at least.
 
PPT said:
To me this Tory government has a John Major feel about it. Whilst Starmer ain’t no Tony Blair he’s on for a comfy 80+ seat majority at least.
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John Major was a safe pair of hands after the toxic era of Thatcher. But the 'nasty party' view persisted and Blair won.

Rishy is similar being a safe pair of hands following the truss debacle. But tories don't want safe. The hard core didn't want Johnson out and don't get why Truss had to go. Given a choice most tory voters would want either of the former back. That dissatisfaction won't help then campaign.
 
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Gareth Barry Conlon said:
John Major was a safe pair of hands after the toxic era of Thatcher. But the 'nasty party' view persisted and Blair won.

Rishy is similar being a safe pair of hands following the truss debacle. But tories don't want safe. The hard core didn't want Johnson out and don't get why Truss had to go. Given a choice most tory voters would want either of the former back. That dissatisfaction won't help then campaign.
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Yep. Agreed. Major’s government was well past its sell by date as are the current Tories. Politics like a lot of things is cyclical and it’s more than a time for a change. I genuinely believe the Tories are going to get wiped out and rightly so. They have been shockingly inept and corrupt.
 
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