The reality is that Israel became a formally recognised country by the decleration of the UN. You can argue about the rights, wrongs and wherefores of that all you want, but that remains a fact.Research haganah 1 of several paramilitary groups
It’s funny that Jews and Muslims have lived together throughout the world without killing each other, there are still some small communities left, but you are taking this to extremes, this is not a war against Islam, and your are kind of turning it that way.Are we all going to negotiate parts out of the Koran that call for the eradication of the Jews, or the other things that go along with it ?
Best of luck with that, because as already stated it is apparently the immutable word of god !
Best we can hope for is some form of truce that will not be legally binding on Islam (another thing stated in their scripture) until they find themselves powerful enough to break treaty.
Did UN declare something about Palestine as well? And the Israel settlements ?The reality is that Israel became a formally recognised country by the decleration of the UN. You can argue about the rights, wrongs and wherefores of that all you want, but that remains a fact.
I'm no expert here but due to its geographical location I'm guessing the water table is low. There's the sea along the coast but you'd need a lot of pumps and pipes and it would only be effective for a very limited distance and then only in something like a small bunker/tunnel complex. It probably isnt feasible. There's a good book on tunnel warfare called the tunnels of Cu Chi . The Americans couldn't eradicate them even with B52 bombers. They had fully equipped hospitals and even cinemas in them. One of the things that that the Viet Cong did was to dig the entrances and initial access tunnels so small that the average American couldn't fit through. The Vietnamese being of smaller physical build could crawl through with ease.Yeah, I get your point.
What about flooding tunnels, wouldn't that be a threat? No idea how realistic that is at all. Just a thought how to minimize own losses in tunnels.
I know, where does the water come from.
What is the negotiated way to end it? I agree a negotiation is necessary but that comes after both parties have agreed to stop killing each other. I'm more talking about getting to the latter. Israel could negotiate with people like Arafat many years ago but this is different.
Israel has no sensible and calm leadership to negotiate with, they're all in Qatar waging war and sunning it a million miles from the war they have started.
You have to remember that Hamas currently hold hundreds of hostages. Many posters on here conveniently forget that when they call for restraint and in the same breath almost justify shite such as armed struggle in desperation.
Taking hostages for a political cause pretty much fulfils the definition of terrorism so should a country negotiate with terrorists?
The Quran doesn't call for the eradication of Jews though.Are we all going to negotiate parts out of the Koran that call for the eradication of the Jews, or the other things that go along with it ?
Best of luck with that, because as already stated it is apparently the immutable word of god !
Best we can hope for is some form of truce that will not be legally binding on Islam (another thing stated in their scripture) until they find themselves powerful enough to break treaty.
I think and hope no one on here will argue that hamas are diabolical - I have not seen a single post on here argue they are anything but that. Just in case you are misinterpreting anybodys condemnation of the barbaric war crimes - such as cutting off the populations water supply - that the Israel regime are committing in Gaza, with thatHamas is Isis
It's actually funny that you are saying that, were you the one who posted about the fine relations and 'golden age' of Jews in the Ottaman empire ?It’s funny that Jews and Muslims have lived together throughout the world without killing each other, there are still some small communities left, but you are taking this to extremes, this is not a war against Islam, and your are kind of turning it that way.
They've spouted plenty, but mainly from the viewpoint of the OIC !Did UN declare something about Palestine as well? And the Israel settlements ?
Not aware that I said otherwise or made any arguements about rights, wrongs and wherefores.The reality is that Israel became a formally recognised country by the decleration of the UN. You can argue about the rights, wrongs and wherefores of that all you want, but that remains a fact.
I wonder how many commenter have read declaration of independence. Borders part is interestingDid UN declare something about Palestine as well? And the Israel settlements ?
So they've spouted plenty about the state of Palestine and Illegal Israel settlements. But they've spoken the truth about the Israel's right to exist.They've spouted plenty, but mainly from the viewpoint of the OIC !
So they've spouted plenty about the state of Palestine and Illegal Israel settlements. But they've spoken the truth about the Israel's right to exist.
A bit like everything i say is the truth when its in your favour but its spouting when its not in your favour.
It’s funny that Jews and Muslims have lived together throughout the world without killing each other, there are still some small communities left, but you are taking this to extremes, this is not a war against Islam, and your are kind of turning it that way.
And it’s strange how some far right groups in this country have latched on to this war and the brutality, back in the day it was the Jews who were the target for their hate, and all the same arguments were trotted out about the Jews and Judaism as are being trotted out about Islam and Muslims, they just need a minority group who they can’t understand or never try to understand
I hope you are not one those people, it’s a deep rabbit hole to fall into
No, if you checked you may find that the UN has changed more than a little over the years. In 1948 there were 58 members. The OIC have 57 members, of which 56 are UN members.So they've spouted plenty about the state of Palestine and Illegal Israel settlements. But they've spoken the truth about the Israel's right to exist.
A bit like everything i say is the truth when its in your favour but its spouting when its not in your favour.
Mr. Kobayashi, I have read your comments and agree with you!! So please do not take these points as a criticism !! I have clearly stated before, that other than the recent Hamas attack, I have taken a Pro Palestinian approach to this conflict. The danger comes when people start making comments that without proper research could be flawed.Much like us being led on with chat of WMD in Iraq. Now I stand to be corrected, and any comments are welcome. I have taken time to listen to the Israeli side of this matter and perhaps was a little surprised.It's not walking back anything. Jewish settlers formed terrorist groups and carried out a campaign of violence, which included targeting civilians.
The British withdrew in response to the chaos.
Why do you ignore the UN's declaration that Israeli settlements are illegal?
Human rights ? Do they only exist for certain communities ? Do Palestinians have human rights?No, if you checked you may find that the UN has changed more than a little over the years. In 1948 there were 58 members. The OIC have 57 members, of which 56 are UN members.
Now there are over 190 members, and groups formed within that that 'promote' special interests. We now have some of the larger human rights abusers sat on the boards that deal with human rights for instance.
Ridiculous, moronic and totally ignorant statement albeit typical of some, fortunately a minority, on here who love to spout cliches about this situation.It's also a state created by Terrorism.
And a state that decided to help the terrorists it now fights in order to divide and rule and prolong the limbo of the Palestinians.