Cost of living crisis - how are you all doing?

[N1985]

Well this thread took a turn, fucking hell

And I'm not being funny, who the fuck falls accidentally pregnant in their 30s

 

[Phil1]

If you abort a child because at some point in the future you 'might' struggle is absolutely bizarre

It’s not the best reason, granted.

 

[Phil1]

Both sound like they are in well paid jobs tbf just that bluemooner hates the world for some reason.

Hating the world would make more sense to abort than financial reasons tbf..

 

[pride in battle]

Both sound like they are in well paid jobs tbf just that bluemooner hates the world for some reason.

He needs to get a life to be honest instead of coming on here moaning 'what might be'
There's millions out there really struggling, he needs to count his blessings.

 

[BlueMooner87]

Wow, you would kill a baby for that

Yes, I would also advocate the "killing" of any baby where there isn't the finances to support them and give them the best opportunities.

I believe that far too many people bring children into the world without thinking about the consequences properly, not just on their lives but on the lives of the people around them within their family and also the child itself.

I understand that I am in the minority here but I would advocate for a sort of child licence, if people cannot support their own life how can they bring further life into the world. I am not in the camp that enough love will support any child.

 

[BlueMooner87]

Well you wouldn't be the one aborting it it would be your Mrs choice, and once pregnant her whole outlook might change.

I fully understand that its her decision once pregnant but it doesn't change our reasons in the first place for not wanting to bring a life into the world.

 

[Phil1]

I fully understand that its her decision once pregnant but it doesn't change our reasons in the first place for not wanting to bring a life into the world.

It’s pretty easy to avoid unwanted pregnancies these days so hopefully it’ll never be a decision you have to make.

 

[Gorton_Tubster]

If someone wants an abortion its their choice, if they dont its their choice. wtf with people.

 

[BlueMooner87]

Both sound like they are in well paid jobs tbf just that bluemooner hates the world for some reason.

We are in decent paid jobs, I don't hate the world, not sure where you have drawn that conclusion.

We would like to have children, but we would also want the best for our children which includes wanting my wife to have the choice of not to having to work but that isn't an option and such I wouldn't want to bring a child into that environment.

I came from a relatively poor family, my parents did their best with what they had and being the youngest of 4 I understand the irony of the fact that I wouldn't be here now if they lived by our choice.

 

[splinter]

Skint but have the basics, a trip to the Maldives is on hold

 

[Phil1]

If someone wants an abortion its their choice, if they dont its their choice. wtf with people.

Im in this camp on the whole. Ideally it’s not something you ever want to go through I’d imagine but each circumstance is different and all reasons may seem valid to those involved.
People who throw out “you’d kill a baby” are just being over emotional and don’t really help as it’s not true.

 

[kaz7]

Im in this camp on the whole. Ideally it’s not something you ever want to go through I’d imagine but each circumstance is different and all reasons may seem valid to those involved.
People who throw out “you’d kill a baby” are just being over emotional and don’t really help as it’s not true.

I have seen more abortions than you have hot dinners , all gestations , it is vile , do you live to have a go at people given you seem to log on just to do that

 

[Phil1]

I have seen more abortions than you have hot dinners , all gestations , it is vile , do you live to have a go at people given you seem to log on just to do that

No, but certain posts catch my attention more than others.
Nobody said it was pleasant. I’m just not down with folk basically alluding to murdering a baby because a couple have come to what must already be a very difficult decision.
Let’s leave the having a go at people shite to one side as you’re the fucking master of it on this forum.

 

[kaz7]

No, but certain posts catch my attention more than others.
Nobody said it was pleasant. I’m just not down with folk basically alluding to murdering a baby because a couple have come to what must already be a very difficult decision.
Let’s leave the having a go at people shite to one side as you’re the fucking master of it on this forum.

You can put it in flowerly language but until you have seen a twenty two week baby aborted you know nothing , you are out of your depth on this subject, therefore i am going to ignore you now

 

[Phil1]

You can put it in flowerly language but until you have seen a twenty two week baby aborted you know nothing , you are out of your depth on this subject

Just to caveat I’m talking a very early abortion here, one that is decided and done at the very first opportunity.
My stance would be different if it involved a 22 week old unless it was for the health and safety of the mother or the hospital had discovered serious issues with the baby.
I’m not out of my depth, if we were talking shite daytime tv then yeah, you’d be right but I’ve every right to an opinion on this subject thanks.

 

[I'm With Stupid]

It’s an excellent piece that puts into perspective the UK today, it is real destitution in parts of the country.
The least we can do is provide food and clothing for our young children free so they don’t grow up sick and disabled by poverty because they are our future. They will only turn to crime and drugs if they don’t receive state help to grow up normal.

It's not just that. Kids in the UK, because of poor diet, are already 7cm shorter than equivalent European countries at the age of 5. That will have permanent lifelong effects. It even affects IQ. People who are malnourished never reach their potential.

 

[I'm With Stupid]

Wow, you would kill a baby for that

What do you think most people have an abortion for? Financial circumstances is the top reason and a good chunk of the minor reasons are effectively money-related too.

 

[Coatigan]

We are in decent paid jobs, I don't hate the world, not sure where you have drawn that conclusion.

We would like to have children, but we would also want the best for our children which includes wanting my wife to have the choice of not to having to work but that isn't an option and such I wouldn't want to bring a child into that environment.

I came from a relatively poor family, my parents did their best with what they had and being the youngest of 4 I understand the irony of the fact that I wouldn't be here now if they lived by our choice.

I understand, and respect, your choice and logic. It is a personal thing and only you can know what is right for you.

How you then relate that to a sweeping single angle judgement of society as a whole, your part in wider economics etc, is where the issue is, and dismissals come.

As a reminder of what got lost here, this whole chain started off with a point you have made previously. Your take that you shouldn't be paying for other people's welfare, because you made a choice not to have children. The merits or not of your choice aside, you are looking at society highly selfishly.

 

[MCFC Wirral]

Really starting to pinch now, and I've only just turned the heating on for the first time.

On the bright side, I think I've lost a stone in the last six weeks, mostly through missing meals.

You’re not able to be referred to a food bank?

 

[LangleyBlue1970]

Well this thread took a turn, fucking hell

And I'm not being funny, who the fuck falls accidentally pregnant in their 30s

That’s what I thought. Use protection if there’s an ‘accidental’ chance of falling pregnant.

Or just pull out. It’s very simple.