Middle East Conflict | Netanyahu orders strikes on Gaza (p1161)

Bluemoon_420 said:
Homeless problem? What like being kicked out of their homes by settlers? Or being bombed out of their homes if they’re lucky enough to survive in the first place?
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I'm not on about the Palestinian folk. I'm on about the homeless/ poverty problems you mentioned which exist in America.
 
Akiva said:
Maybe the guy who said this...



on October 7th - following the rape and murder of over 250 EDM concert goers, the abduction of over 200 men, women and children and indiscriminate slaughter of over 1000 other innocents - shouldn't be judging other posters for a perceived lack of indignation.
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I stand by what I said in that post. All of it, not just the bit you clipped.
 
Roachy said:
I'm not on about the Palestinian folk. I'm on about the homeless/ poverty problems you mentioned which exist in America.
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My bad mate, misread what you wrote. Must be some truth about men not being able to multitask :)

Agreed - beggars belief the American public aren’t up in arms over this.
 
Username Required said:

Original Party Platform of the Likud Party

Encyclopedia of Jewish and Israeli history, politics and culture, with biographies, statistics, articles and documents on topics from anti-Semitism to Zionism.
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Likud Party: Original Party Platform (1977)​

The Right of the Jewish People to the Land of Israel (Eretz Israel)

a. The right of the Jewish people to the land of Israel is eternal and indisputable and is linked with the right to security and peace; therefore, Judea and Samaria will not be handed to any foreign administration; between the Sea and the Jordan there will only be Israeli sovereignty.​
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That may answer my earlier question as I assume the reference to "western Eretz Israel" implies that east of the Jordan is also part of Eretz Israel.
 
M16 citeh said:
Referring to netanyahu as bibi? You got pet names for all of the right wing tyrant leaders? I think most the world has already condemned Israels actions don't know what your waiting for!
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Bibi is quicker to type when you’re on work. That’s the simple answer.
Sorry if it offended you.

There’s a prediction in the video. We need to wait and see if he is correct. Simple answer again.
 
Don Karleone said:
I stand by what I said in that post. All of it, not just the bit you clipped.
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Out of interest from your original post, which of Hamas’s tactics used on the 7th did you agree with if you only disagreed with some of them?
Don Karleone said:
Depends on who's doing it. This thread only got bumped because it was Israel on the receiving end this time. I disagree with some of the tactics used today, I can see why it happened though.
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Dax777 said:
I suppose they could simply have just let ISIL reign supreme.

When faced with impossible options you will choose one.
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Well I’m on the side of let’s not bomb innocent civilians into oblivion. 1.2 million Iraqi people died in the Iraq war. Do you think that’s an acceptable sacrifice to rid the world of ISIS? Because I think slaughtering that staggering number of people is infinitely worse than whatever barbarity and brutality ISIS could ever hope to inflict on the world.
 
Vialli98 said:
Well I’m on the side of let’s not bomb innocent civilians into oblivion. 1.2 million Iraqi people died in the Iraq war. Do you think that’s an acceptable sacrifice to rid the world of ISIS? Because I think slaughtering that staggering number of people is infinitely worse than whatever barbarity and brutality ISIS could ever hope to inflict on the world.
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I know. It's quite extraordinary anyone would think otherwise. It's also one of the reasons the US is disliked around the world by ordinary people. Our governments, western and eastern, may grovel to be near the seat of utmost power, but populations around the world can see what's what.
In addition the behaviour of the US in the region going back decades has led to the growth of islamic fundamentalism.
 
Akiva said:
Maybe the guy who said this...



on October 7th - following the rape and murder of over 250 EDM concert goers, the abduction of over 200 men, women and children and indiscriminate slaughter of over 1000 other innocents - shouldn't be judging other posters for a perceived lack of indignation.
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Tbf what's up with what he posted. I think 50% of posters on here have pratically said the same or worded it different. He has condemned Hamas on numerous occasions too.
 
Vialli98 said:
Well I’m on the side of let’s not bomb innocent civilians into oblivion. 1.2 million Iraqi people died in the Iraq war. Do you think that’s an acceptable sacrifice to rid the world of ISIS? Because I think slaughtering that staggering number of people is infinitely worse than whatever barbarity and brutality ISIS could ever hope to inflict on the world.
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How many of those 1.2m people were killed by direct Military action? Also Iraq war was nothing to do with ISIS. ISIS was a result of it.
 
www.globalvillagespace.com

Israeli forces spray sewage-like water on gates of Al-Aqsa in video

Videos of spraying the gates with sewage-like water of the Al-Aqsa mosque by forces of Israel to disburse and discourage the worshippers are
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Spraying shit into Palestinians homes Is a war crime.

The above is from 2021. Wouldn't surprise me if this is going on now.
 
Palerider said:
It's a good scenario but I don't think it's accurate. Hamas need to be stopped because if they are not stopped they will kill again. So what if the killer has sworn to kill all your family, has already killed 2 of your 4 kids and is using your wife as a shield as he moves towards another bedroom containing your other two kids? Do you take the shot at the killer and hope your wife survives or let him enter your childrens bedroom?
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Let's extend that scenario a little further. Would it be acceptable to then go after and indiscriminately murder the killer's family, neighbours, friends, random families in the community he lives?

I would still argue, in your scenario, it would be completely insane for the police to shoot through your missus to ensure the killer dies.

It seems to me that you don't have too much concern for the Palestinians, despite claiming you do. What is an acceptable number of Palestinian deaths before you finally say Israel have gone too far? 10,000 dead? 15,000 dead?
 
grunge said:
How many of those 1.2m people were killed by direct Military action? Also Iraq war was nothing to do with ISIS. ISIS was a result of it.
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No idea. I don't have detailed reports at hand, but it was a 20 year occupation. Think about how crazy that sounds. Occupying another country for two decades.

The initial stories around the invasion of Iraq was that Saddam has WMDs.

But you'd think many of those that weren't killed by direct military action eventually died from the destruction of the systems that provide food, health care and clean drinking water, and as a result, illness, infectious diseases, and malnutrition that could otherwise have been avoided or treated, all of which would be considered indirectly caused by the military action.
 
Churchlawtonblue said:
That's several hundred more willing Gaza fighters signing up to kill Israelis. Well done Netanyahu.
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This is what I don't get. Indiscriminate killing is only going to lead to more people willing to fight for Hamas. I can only assume it's deliberate.
 
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