United Thread - 2023/24

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AlexWilliamsGloves said:
I dont know....i find it hard to believe that there was a conscious decision to punish Bernardo "because" he is a City player....and a conscious decision not to punish Garnacho because he is a utd player.

I think that in Bernados case they looked at it and wrongly decided he was guilty of being racist. I then think in Garnachos case they looked at it and decided, correctly, that he didnt intend to be racist.

Its probably as straight forward as that...im not defending that raggy twat...i just dont think that the wrong decision about Bernardo, means there should be a wrong decision for the weird faced one.

People wanted him punished simply because Bernardo was....both were stupid in what they tweeted, but neither of them were being racist
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This is open discrimination before our very eyes. They decided on the standard of behaviour that constitutes racism, and now they are applying a totally different standard.

They are saying Bernardo is racist, Garnacho isn't, and that they are an impartial organisation. It makes no sense.
 
AlexWilliamsGloves said:
Lets be honest, Garnacho was not being racist....and we know Bernardo was not being racist either.

Do we just keep going round and round saying, "yeah but, yeah but what about when..."

There needs to be some rational thinking and decision making here.....i totally get that Bernardo got done, totally unfairly, but hopefully this is the start of a more pragmatic approach to this sort of thing.

I know, i know....i wont hold my breath either
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Yes, we do (go round and round).

You are right on both. But one was suspended, fined, and sent on a learning course. The other wasn't. That in itself is unfair and inconsistent. And they are certainly comparable.
 
AlexWilliamsGloves said:
I dont know....i find it hard to believe that there was a conscious decision to punish Bernardo "because" he is a City player....and a conscious decision not to punish Garnacho because he is a utd player.

I think that in Bernados case they looked at it and wrongly decided he was guilty of being racist. I then think in Garnachos case they looked at it and decided, correctly, that he didnt intend to be racist.

Its probably as straight forward as that...im not defending that raggy twat...i just dont think that the wrong decision about Bernardo, means there should be a wrong decision for the weird faced one.

People wanted him punished simply because Bernardo was....both were stupid in what they tweeted, but neither of them were being racist
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So the City player got called racist and got banned

The rag didn’t get called racist and didn’t get banned

There is no consistency whatsoever
 
AlexWilliamsGloves said:
People wanted him punished simply because Bernardo was....both were stupid in what they tweeted, but neither of them were being racist
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Because it is only fair. If we accept there's a baseline in society and more importantly the game, then it is the same for all. At all times.
 
Iassel said:
I mean hopefully because someone saw some sense and decided life is too short to be banning people for dumb injokes.

Common sense has to break in at some point, why not now
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Nah nothing to do with common sense more to done with the team you play for.
 
Iassel said:
I mean hopefully because someone saw some sense and decided life is too short to be banning people for dumb injokes.

Common sense has to break in at some point, why not now
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Fine if that's the case - I have no problem with that. So let's see someone from the FA come out and give an explanation, and apologise that Bernardo was treated harshly.
 
give it to gordon said:
Nah nothing to do with common sense more to done with the team you play for.
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Meh, they’ve now set a sensible precedent that next time some footballer tweets something dumb they don’t have to suspend them.

Whether they do that for a United player or a Walsall player is not really worth getting worked up over.
 
I doubt it's anything to do with Garnacho being a United player. Probably more likely that Onana publicly backing him played a big part in the FA's decision. Could be wrong about this but I don't remember Mendy coming out and supporting Bernardo at the time. But whatever, they're an irrelevance. Garnacho isn't exactly ripping up trees. United gain basically nothing from this.
 
youngbob said:
I doubt it's anything to do with Garnacho being a United player. Probably more likely that Onana publicly backing him played a big part in the FA's decision. Could be wrong about this but I don't remember Mendy coming out and supporting Bernardo at the time. But whatever, they're an irrelevance. Garnacho isn't exactly ripping up trees. United gain basically nothing from this.
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So basically, he should get off because he's not very good?
 
The football authorities looking after their own again. A good guy like Bernardo has his reputation tarnished for ever, the Utd player not so. It is when you see this type of blatantly vindictive double standards, that I am considerably less confident than some that we will see off the 115 trumped up charges against us.
 
youngbob said:
I doubt it's anything to do with Garnacho being a United player. Probably more likely that Onana publicly backing him played a big part in the FA's decision. Could be wrong about this but I don't remember Mendy coming out and supporting Bernardo at the time. But whatever, they're an irrelevance. Garnacho isn't exactly ripping up trees. United gain basically nothing from this.
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Mendy certainly did back Bernardo that’s what makes this bollocks. There was a sky yellow banner for days highlighting the tweet as well calling for punishment
 
youngbob said:
I doubt it's anything to do with Garnacho being a United player. Probably more likely that Onana publicly backing him played a big part in the FA's decision. Could be wrong about this but I don't remember Mendy coming out and supporting Bernardo at the time. But whatever, they're an irrelevance. Garnacho isn't exactly ripping up trees. United gain basically nothing from this.
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He did. He wrote a letter to both the FA and Kick it out.

Ultimately neither is relevant, it was out on a public platform, it is no longer about the individual it is aimed at. The emoji used is more conventionally associated with racist connotations than the advert that most wouldn't even have seen was.

I don't think he is racist at all. But he made a mistake, a naive faux-pas, and the consequences should follow precedent. Otherwise, the whole thing starts to fall apart.
 
AlexWilliamsGloves said:
People wanted him punished simply because Bernardo was....both were stupid in what they tweeted, but neither of them were being racist
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Just to be clear. Had Bernardo's tweet gone unpunished, and Gazpacho's got him a suspension, I would still be arguing the same. I.e that it is unfair and should be consistent, for it to have any meaning.
 
youngbob said:
I doubt it's anything to do with Garnacho being a United player. Probably more likely that Onana publicly backing him played a big part in the FA's decision. Could be wrong about this but I don't remember Mendy coming out and supporting Bernardo at the time. But whatever, they're an irrelevance. Garnacho isn't exactly ripping up trees. United gain basically nothing from this.
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Benjamin Mendy writes to FA in defence of Man City team-mate Bernardo Silva after controversial tweet

Benjamin Mendy has written to the FA in defence of Bernardo Silva over a controversial tweet, described as a “racial stereotype.”
www.standard.co.uk www.standard.co.uk
 
youngbob said:
I doubt it's anything to do with Garnacho being a United player. Probably more likely that Onana publicly backing him played a big part in the FA's decision. Could be wrong about this but I don't remember Mendy coming out and supporting Bernardo at the time. But whatever, they're an irrelevance. Garnacho isn't exactly ripping up trees. United gain basically nothing from this.
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Think you will fine Mendy did write to the fa. This is a clear case of who you play for. To try and say is not is bonkers
 
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