PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

StillBluessinceHydeRoad said:
I think the immediate deduction of the points is something of a red herring and it smacks of the letter from PL clubs demanding that the ban and fine on City should be imposed if City delayed proceedings at CAS. In fact CAS didn't even consider the demand because City never asked for a delay but it is unlikely CAS would have agreed. PL rules do lay down a procedure of appeal and it would be perverse to impose a penalty before the amechanism for appeals had been exhausted.
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We'll only know the what the PL will do for certain, if/when Everton appeal.

We could end up unduly pooing ourselves unnecessarily. We've got until Thursday for Everton to make a move, so we'll know a lot more by then.

HOWEVER, the PL could still take a view on suspending sanctions pending appeals based on the severity of the case/sanction.

Such procedural uncertainty is criminal in such a huge industry. Let's hope the independent regulator is setup soon & has more teeth & integrity than OFCOM & the like.
 
StillBluessinceHydeRoad said:
I think the immediate deduction of the points is something of a red herring and it smacks of the letter from PL clubs demanding that the ban and fine on City should be imposed if City delayed proceedings at CAS. In fact CAS didn't even consider the demand because City never asked for a delay but it is unlikely CAS would have agreed. PL rules do lay down a procedure of appeal and it would be perverse to impose a penalty before the amechanism for appeals had been exhausted.
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The appeal shouldn’t take that long. They’re only contesting the severity of punishment, which was always bound to happen as there is no precedent.
 
waspish said:
Can the premier clubs vote to not have ffp because they voted for it!?
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My guess is in order to comply approximately with UEFA FFP all member leagues have to adopt a version, so with the EPL it’s this profit and sustainability rules which since their inception in 2016 City have complied with. The charges against City are historic, tenuous and motivated by malice towards our club.
 
Iassel said:
Any incoming regulator isn’t going to be going back and reviewing old decisions.


The tribunal panel will encompass extremely competent, respected KC’s who can demand an absolute fortune for their services. They’re not going to be putting themselves in position to be leaned on to make any ruling, nor are they going to allow any partisan considerations to influence their decisions.
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If they do I'm sure our cheaply assembled legal team will have a say.
 
Silva61 said:
Think it was 6m overspend.
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Can anybody make sense of these numbers...

..." a change in the way that UEFA adjusted for Covid-19 losses during the 2022 reporting period, which allowed them to recognise only €15m of the €281m of revenues lost due to the pandemic within the FFP calculation"...

..."it is understood United’s stance is that they were unable to adjust for €47m of Covid losses in the 2022 monitoring period because of an unforeseen change in how UEFA treated those losses during the transition to its revised financial sustainability regulatory framework. The losses came on top of €234m of pandemic-related losses across 2019-20 and 2020-21."

...because I can't.

Looks to me that it was reported as failing by 15million euros (about 13million pounds), which isn't a huge amount less than what Everton missed by
 
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SamBlue said:
I understand that, but there is the whole appeal process, which in the end might end up at some sort oof court of appeal. I read that bloody article several times, there is no independent appeal body, there is bloody nothing smelling of independent process. We'll end up appealing to the very same people picked by somebody, who happened also to pick those who might have found find us guilty, and to laugh at all that, those considering our appeal might be the same ones having found Everton guilty. Comrade Xi would not come with this framework.
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Judge. Jury. Hangman.
 
Jam Tomorrow said:
My guess is in order to comply approximately with UEFA FFP all member leagues have to adopt a version, so with the EPL it’s this profit and sustainability rules which since their inception in 2016 City have complied with. The charges against City are historic, tenuous and motivated by malice towards our club.
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The French don't have ffp don't think Germany do either!
 
Iassel said:
Any incoming regulator isn’t going to be going back and reviewing old decisions.


The tribunal panel will encompass extremely competent, respected KC’s who can demand an absolute fortune for their services. They’re not going to be putting themselves in position to be leaned on to make any ruling, nor are they going to allow any partisan considerations to influence their decisions.
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If, as was reported the panel involves the Arsenal supporter I’d bet his bias would be crushing, just because he’s a KC it doesn’t mean he would look at the case with 100% balance.
 
Iassel said:
Any incoming regulator isn’t going to be going back and reviewing old decisions.


The tribunal panel will encompass extremely competent, respected KC’s who can demand an absolute fortune for their services. They’re not going to be putting themselves in position to be leaned on to make any ruling, nor are they going to allow any partisan considerations to influence their decisions.
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Didn't UEFA claim the same? However, CAS found in City's favour on appeal & tore a strip off UEFA.
 
I'm no cynic but... said:
None of this would have affected us if Swales had stayed. A renamed Club would be competing in mid table of the Northern Vanarama league and our remaining 'wealth' would have been purely generated through gate receipts only.

Is that the sort of game the neanderthals want the game to regress to ?
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Probably
 
I would assume City and their legal team had a meeting in person or via video link once the 10 point deduction punishment for Everton became public. And are currently in the process of looking at a worst case scenario punishment wise, and how to mitigate it player wise and financially, if City are found guilty. Every scenario has to be looked at and evaluated, regrdless if we are found guilty or not.
 
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