Joey Barton

Vienna_70 said:
As I said earlier, it’s not a similarly low standard as non-League football.

The WSL is the élite level in women’s football in this country.

For what it’s worth, I think Izzy Christensen - ex-Manchester City - is one of the best pundits around. She is far more insightful and eloquent than Spit the Scouse, gargoyle Gary or Jamie Catflapp.
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I know that the WSL is the best division of women's football over here but whoever is the best team would get battered against the likes of Chesterfield, Barnet etc
 
Paulmcfc2703 said:
I know that the WSL is the best division of women's football over here but whoever is the best team would get battered against the likes of Chesterfield, Barnet etc
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They’d get battered by a decent pub team. Think he’s a complete bellend but made some decent points. When a female is talking absolute shite in the studio no pundit will dare pull them up on it. By contrast when Richards is talking utter bollox pundits like Keane, Chuckle and Carragher will tell him so.
 
Ric said:
I’m not sure why it’s suddenly become a prerequisite to have played at the highest level to be a good co-commentator. There’s numerous examples of exceptional footballers who are terrible in the role.
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I think the point regarding pundits is that Sky et al ONLY employ male pundits that have played at the highest level.
 
Mon Autre said:
Broadcast companies are commercial ventures and they've realised that audiences want and prefer a range of voices and styles rather than more of the same. It's not box ticking, it's about representing their audiences better and giving people what they want.
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Selecting pundits based on their gender and/or skin colour rather than ability is box ticking.
 
SWP's back said:
I think the point regarding pundits is that Sky et al ONLY employ male pundits that have played at the highest level.
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Isn’t that the same for the female pundits they employ too though? At least they’re consistent in that regard.
 
Sky pundits talk bollocks and focus far more on staged arguments and banter than analysis.

They also have YouTubers from both genders on news segments and Saturday social etc, all talk bollocks and it's usually the males in this group that come out with the most shite.

I can't imagine how thin-skinned, insecure and how small your dick would have to be to actually be bothered by women competing with men to talk cliched nonsense to simpletons.
 
Barton is playing the game and we’re all involved discussing him.

It’s even got people saying WSL teams are better ability wise than league one and two!

Wythenshawe Town in the NWCFL would beat any WSL side easily and it has nothing to do with strength.
 
WNRH said:
It’s even got people saying WSL teams are better ability wise than league one and two!
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Mr Kobayashi said:
Sky pundits talk bollocks and focus far more on staged arguments and banter than analysis.

They also have YouTubers from both genders on news segments and Saturday social etc, all talk bollocks and it's usually the males in this group that come out with the most shite.

I can't imagine how thin-skinned, insecure and how small your dick would have to be to actually be bothered by women competing with men to talk cliched nonsense to simpletons.
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Ric said:
I’m not sure why it’s suddenly become a prerequisite to have played at the highest level to be a good co-commentator. There’s numerous examples of exceptional footballers who are terrible in the role.
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But it also has become a prerequisite that a female MUST be on a show, that's the issue and is it for the right and genuine reason or just to tick boxes?
 
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Alan Harper's Tash said:
The need to have played at the highest level seems a little silly.

Perhaps art critics should have to paint to the standard of Rembrandt to have a qualified view, or maybe Sid Waddell should have left darts to those that have chucked arrows at the highest level.

Anybody who’s done their coaching badges are qualified to comment on tactics.

Can you imagine the uproar if a female pundit pissed around as much as Micah does, whilst adding the square root of fuck all insight into the game?

Fortunately, Barton’s plea will land on the deafest of ears and it’ll carry on how the broadcasters want, not what a washed up manager has to say.
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Exactly - it doesn't stack that you have to have achieved 'x' to be able to form and articulate an informed opinion on it.

How many pundits are qualified to form an opinion on Leo Messi / Diego? That's right none, as none of them achieved their level.

Different arena but what makes Martin Samuel qualified to write about footballing matters?

As far as I am aware, never played / managed / referee'd / owned a club at any meaningful level but is it fair to observe that he has a very very good read and insightful views on the game?

Absolutely it does.............
 
Imagine posting on this forum your opinion of City’s performances and tactics, then stating that women can’t be doing the same because ‘the men and women’s games aren’t comparable’.

They’ve got eyes. They can watch the game all the same. Some of them will more insight and relevance in their experience than these pundits who ‘played the game at the top level’ such as Keane, who played the game 20 years ago when it was fucking kick and rush, smash the opponent and abuse everybody.

I’d rather listen to some of City’s match going women’s opinion of the game, than some misogynistic pig who watches the match through their screen and cries about Alex Scott or whoever appearing on their TV package.
 
BlueTG said:
Imagine posting on this forum your opinion of City’s performances and tactics, then stating that women can’t be doing the same because ‘the men and women’s games aren’t comparable’.

They’ve got eyes. They can watch the game all the same. Some of them will more insight and relevance in their experience than these pundits who ‘played the game at the top level’ such as Keane, who played the game 20 years ago when it was fucking kick and rush, smash the opponent and abuse everybody.

I’d rather listen to some of City’s match going women’s opinion of the game, than some misogynistic pig who watches the match through their screen and cries about Alex Scott or whoever appearing on their TV package.
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Or???

Just turn the sound down and relax.
 
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