PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

M18CTID said:
I doubt that it was 15 minutes but didn’t the CAS hearing finish earlier than expected? I seem to recall reading about it at the time.
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I seem to remember it being rumoured City’s legal team weren’t particularly happy after the first day of CAS but much more upbeat after the second
 
Coatigan said:
There have not been any allegations publicly brought up against other PL clubs. Once Der Spiegel published what they claimed was (hacked) evidence of fraudulent accounting, both Uefa and the PL had to investigate, given they both have ffp rules.

Uefa concluded theirs, CAS disagreed with their findings. The PL Could have at that point concluded theirs in line with the CAS findings, but they instead spent another 3 years investigating it and charging us.

Everton have recently been penalised, but not for failing FFP, not for trying to 'hide' it. I don't think the PL would go investigating all clubs, for not presenting accurate information, without some sort of allegation of wrongdoing first.
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No they didn’t have to investigate.

There’s been all sorts of stories, revelations in tabloids over the years that have never had investigations.

If anything the premier league should have asked for Der Spiegel to provide their dossier if they couldn’t no case.
 
Claytop said:
You’re usually one of the more sane posters on here (yeh backhanded compliment I know..) but this thread over the last week or so seems to be rubbing you up the wrong way…
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You are right, it has, and I really don't know why. I'll be better.
 
halfcenturyup said:
I checked. Both the UEFA and PL investigations were started at the back end of 2018. Pretty quickly, actually .....
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Pretty quickly? They are certainly not acting quickly. We are now in 2024 and apparently a year or more to go?
 
Didsbury Dave said:
made me see the wood for the trees a bit
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Marklr said:
I'm happy with the rate of international growth. It's impressive watching vids of massive supporter groups from all over the world. That's WITH the bad publicity.
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Certainly the trophies that were won by City happened because of their allegations and helped global awareness of our great club.

In football terms an own goal that galvanized our determination to beat them.
 
halfcenturyup said:
Fair enough, I just get the impression the club hasn't provided third party evidence to the investigation. Yes, thousands of pages of the club's financial information so they can say they cooperated fully (as far as they think they had to), but nothing external (which is where the real counter-evidence is). Plenty of reasons for that, but the new rule for clubs to make best efforts to provide third party evidence isn't a coincidence, of course. Nor was the club challenging that new rules couldn't be applied to prior years.

Just a theory, but it answers questions people are asking like i) why did the PL charge the club if they have no evidence? (the better question for me is what else could the PL do if no convincing evidence was presented against the allegations?) ii) why did the PL charge the club with non-cooperation and acting in bad faith when we say we have fully cooperated? (because we didn't recognise the requirement to provide third party information and we have deliberately withheld it until the panel). iii) Why did the PL recently introduce a new rule that clubs "must" obtain third party information? and iv) What was it about the news that the club was seeking confirmation that new rules couldn't be applied retroactively?

Anyway, as I said, just a theory and don't want to derail the thread again, so will shut up. :)
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You shouldn’t have to defend yourself against “no evidence” of wrong doing.
 
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