PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

That's a salient point about changing the rules. Fundamentally even the basic principle of FFP / PSR is nonsensical to me. For example, imagine Asda being penalised for spending too much. If Asda loses money, so what?.

But to specify arbitrary amounts which can be lost over arbitrary periods or to alter the "rules" (EUFA FFP 2014) exposes FFP as the artificial and meaningless charade it is.

It keeps accountants and lawyers employed I suppose. But really the whole shitshow needs to be scrapped.

The idea of ensuring clubs don't go bust is a sound one. But the rules don't do that and it was never about that in the first place. It was a great marketing ploy to bring in rules that helped those clubs with high existing revenue to remain ahead of the rest.

Clubs like Everton probably felt they protected their league position with the rules as well, not foreseeing the number of new owners that would be attracted to the cash cow over the following decade.

They've been poorly run but a points deduction is much more likely to contribute to the football club going bust than them spending their owners money.

Whilst the red shirts spiral into debt with no punishment, a club with all the money of Newcastle and no risk of going bust is the one restricted. Mental.
 
The Daniel Levy masterplan lol. Where not competing for trophies, and seeing your best player in a generation fuck off abroad because of a lack of ambition is now to be applauded.
Hilarious article. Apparently Spurs are leading the way because they have signed Timo Verner on loan. Daniel Levy the genius is at it again.
 
They are and they aren't. Everton knew what the rules were and carried on spending even when they knew they were going to be in trouble by doing so. As you say, entirely their own fault and no one should have any sympathy with them.

The problem is that applying a 10-point deduction mid-season is an issue, both in terms of the timing and severity. The commission made the rather ridiculous point that a financial penalty was inappropriate because they had a rich owner. That shouldn't count in applying an appropriate sanction.

They also said that a points deduction was appropriate because their excessive spending could have resulted in them accumulating extra points they might not otherwise have got if they'd restricted their spending within acceptable limits. You can see some logic behind that but then united have spent loads and under-performed whereas Brighton haven't spent loads and have over-performed. So spending more does not necessarily equate to accumulating more points.

The main problem with any system based on historical profit or loss is that it doesn't really give you a meaningful insight into a club's financial position. United needed investment because they were burning through cash. Without Ratcliffe's money, they might well have run out of cash by Easter. Hard questions should be asked about their liabilities, and how they're going to meet them. And the same applies to every other club.

The historic basis of PSR is also questionable. If club A reports a loss of £75m in year T-2, a £40m loss in year T-1, and a £20m profit in year T, while club B reported the other way round (£20m profit in year T-2, £40m loss in T-1 and a £75m loss in year T) they'll both pass PSR in theory. But which one would ring alarm bells?

What concerned me in the written statement by the PL panel on Everton is that they dismissed all of the mitigation put forward yet still determined a points deduction was warranted. Everton arguments appeared to be quite weak, suggesting covid was an issue (when there had already been mitigation for that) and player sales were impacted as a result, which the PL said was weak because values were on paper and shouldn't be relied upon as achievable. They essentially compared it to running a business and suggested Everton shouldn't be relying on anticipated revenue.

Okay, understandable, but to then say a point deduction is necessary because that extra expenditure likely led to obtaining more points in a previous season seems a stretch, if you apply the same logic.

Everton's case at appeal should state the same logic back and say there's no direct link between expenditure and points. There's a swamp in Trafford they could use as a case study.
 
Hilarious article. Apparently Spurs are leading the way because they have signed Timo Verner on loan. Daniel Levy the genius is at it again.
Leading the way.5th in a league they have not won.Knocked out in one cup they last won in 2008.Last won FA Cup in 1991.
Aye they are leading the way.lol.
 
Good to see that prick Simon Jordan making a fool oh himself again on Talkshite suggesting that Barada decision to join United my that he knows what is coming regards City 115 Premier League charges. But not realising he was in charge of City's sponseship during the alleged period, before Jim Shite informed of this and good old Graham Souness suggested if United had done their due diligence on him may more likely to suggest his and City's are in the clear ! What complete bell end Jordon is !
So if Fred West had moved next door just before the cops dug up his patio , he would still be a free man excavating a pool at Simon’s Algarve mansion using Steve Bruce’s face?
 
The delay is not doing anyone any favours and even more so for us.

We won a magnificent treble yet it was in the eyes of some tainted because of this witch hunt.

It needs sorting and very quickly.
Unfortunately our magnificent achievement will always be tainted , it was the only way the Rags and Dippers could fight back , with their off the field antics because we have totally outclassed them for a decade or more on the field
 
I think your belief that the PL case must be credible simply because Lewis is representing them is misguided. Lord Pannick represented Boris Johnson when the whole country knew he was lying. I think most KCs will represent anyone who is willing to pay them, and do the best job possible for them. I don’t think they only take on cases that they think they will win or truly believe in.
I knew this lassel fella was a bed bug...
 
Absolutely correct.
This poster keeps coming back time and again with this same view, but any ambitious KC would also give anything to cross swords with and measure himself against the big dog (Lord Pannick) - win or lose it’s how reputations are made.
So according to this lassel genius Lord Pannick has taken this case on why exactly? To lose to Lewis? Neither is looking to lose so this guy's rationale is nonsensical and for shit, simple as...
 
If a guilty verdict comes in (NOT SAYING IT WILL), most fans of Liverpool, Arsenal etc are saying that stripping of titles etc is an absolute must. That'd be absolutely devastating, wouldn't it? Can't see it myself.

They won't strip any titles.

This is not something that is genuinely in play, it's just fantasy nonsense from rival dickheads who want a bus parade for Steven Gerrard because he fucked up their one genuine shot in his career.

There's no legal precedent, there's too many moving parts for other teams to start claiming reparations.

Other fans want trophies stripping now. I want Shakira. The Stones were right, you really can't always get what you want.
 
Absolutely correct.
This poster keeps coming back time and again with this same view, but any ambitious KC would also give anything to cross swords with and measure himself against the big dog (Lord Pannick) - win or lose it’s how reputations are made.

They’re both from the same chambers and Lewis is very well renowned in his own right, it’s not as if it’s a David vs Goliath story.

Lewis has represented the PL several times before including the appeals about our investigation that went to court so that’s all it is. There’s nothing to be read into him taking the case aside from if we’re found not guilty, anyone arguing it’s down to us spending money on the best lawyers is a moron - the PL has access to them too and is using one.
 
Spurs have made losses since covid, if they hadn’t banked the cash for Kane last summer they would have failed FFP on this years accounts. They are one of most in the red clubs in football the world over. Interest rates hiking up is fucking them over just like the rags. They are cuckhold enablers of the teams in red and pull the wool over their deluded supporters eyes.

A pointless club who were there when the initial tv deal gave them a bigger cut than 15 other clubs in the league. Two league cups since the inception of the Premier League is a piss poor return, fuck knows how they had an invite to the super league.

Client journalism, fucking atrocious argument, no Europe & no trophy’s.
 
They won't strip any titles.

This is not something that is genuinely in play, it's just fantasy nonsense from rival dickheads who want a bus parade for Steven Gerrard because he fucked up their one genuine shot in his career.

There's no legal precedent, there's too many moving parts for other teams to start claiming reparations.

Other fans want trophies stripping now. I want Shakira. The Stones were right, you really can't always get what you want.
Does it matter? They are SHATTERED...
 
Unfortunately our magnificent achievement will always be tainted , it was the only way the Rags and Dippers could fight back , with their off the field antics because we have totally outclassed them for a decade or more on the field
They fucking invented some money rules so they could have a chance to win in some way, only for the rules to bite them on the arse.
 
Levy HATES City. He made it clear he wanted £160m or don't bother calling & wouldn't budge.

It was Kane who signed a six year deal with no buy out clause, so he only has himself to blame.

I bet no ambitious player worth his salt signs for Spuds without an achievable BoC again. Wasn't this the cause of a transfer collapsing a couple of seasons ago?

Good example of why Levy is a shit negotiator. He loses all future negotiations for acting like a prick in past negotiations.
 

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