PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

[Lord Blue]

If you spent £500m building a new stadium, with repayments spread over 25 years at 3% interest, that's £20,600.000 per season.

If a team becomes relatively successful, they'll more than cover the repayment expenditure with additional sponsorship.

This is the PL payout for 2022-2023 & doesn't include TV appearance payments.

1 Manchester City £170m
2 Arsenal £167.8m
3 Manchester United £165.5m
4 Newcastle United £163.4m
5 Liverpool £161.2m
6 Brighton £159m
7 Aston Villa £156.8m
8 Tottenham Hotspur £154.6m
9 Brentford £152.4m
10 Fulham £150.2m
11 Crystal Palace £148m
12 Chelsea £145.8m
13 Wolves £143.6m
14 West Ham £141.4m
15 Bournemouth £139.2m
16 Nottingham Forest £137m
17 Everton £134.8m
18 Leicester £132.6m
19 Leeds £130.4m
20 Southampton £128.2m

It also doesn't include Cup competition appearance fees or prize money. £20.6m for a stadium out of this level of revenue is easily affordable as long as clubs don't go daft.

Based on a 25% amortised figure, Southampton could have £32m of longterm amortised debt per season, not including all the other income streams.

If the PL adopts the 70% maximum wages to income ratio, Southampton would have a wage level of £90m per season.

Even without all the additional income streams, Southampton would still have £20m per season headroom. It's a rough breakdown, but this model would protect clubs from reckless spending & not stymie owner equity investment.

woah you do research whereas i just "chat shit". you win

 

[Dribble]

woah you do research whereas i just "chat shit". you win

What you said wasn't shit in the slightest, just a different approach that's all, but just as valid mate. :-)

 

[Cumbie Blue]

Those who had had their share of away gate receipts stolen from them. By .... ?

I do love reminding other clubs fans of this, or even telling them for the first time. Your clubs changed a founding principle of the league to ensure you could dominate it on the back of United not winning the title since 1967, Arsenal 1970 and the emergence of 2 very good sides in Forrest and Villa threatening your survival back in 83. They have already taken away the level playing field they're now calling for by restricting owner investment. You couldn't make it up, actually they do make up the rules as they go along. Look at the league winners 83-92, mission accomplished.

 

[monty silva]

Is there any chance the tribunal is already happening? Seems a bit weird that the allegations have been published and there is a year or two before any defence can be made.

 

[Lord Blue]

just wondering what punishments are on the table for breaking rules in general (not specifically in our case)

1. points
2. fine
3. relegation
4. transfer ban
5. squad size reduction
6. fan ban (loss of stadium revenue)
7. premier league voting right suspension
8. exclusion from european competitions
9. stripped of titles
10. forced to listen to simon jordan

any other creative ideas?

 

[Spili's City]

To confirm, this is your opinion and is not supported by any sort of facts.

The PL would not be finding City guilty of fraud albeit they could/would strongly infer it. Any ruling by the tribunal cannot be appealed outside of the PL environment, unless it is founded upon such completely egregious reasoning as to convince a commercial court to take it on, and even then, a commercial court has already ruled the PL have jurisdiction to hear the case, not them.

TLDR version, unless City put forth such evidence as to show completely incontrovertibly that everything was above board, the IC acknowledges it and openly ignores it, the case will end within the PL environment.

Aren’t you going to tell us which team you support?
We’re all waiting

 

[SkyBlueCanuck]

 

[WRicko]

The guy that on White and Jordan sad the tribunal was not the right setting. But he did not say anything about appeals or right to appeal to another setting. So are we sure we can ? Is there a reason he did not say we can or will? Also i don’t think he’s used the word fraud so is it defiantly fraud ? my assumption is that they are accusing us of fraud and we can appeal but he s the expert so just checking

 

[BamberBridgeBlue]

just wondering what punishments are on the table for breaking rules in general (not specifically in our case)

1. points
2. fine
3. relegation
4. transfer ban
5. squad size reduction
6. fan ban (loss of stadium revenue)
7. premier league voting right suspension
8. exclusion from european competitions
9. stripped of titles
10. forced to listen to simon jordan

any other creative ideas?

Manchester City fans wishing to attend away games in the 25/26 season can do so on the understanding they will be collected at a central point (like the train station), be forced to strip naked and have their hair shaved off. They will then be put in chain gang irons and paraded publicly on the way to the stadium whereby home fans will be encouraged to pelt them with rotten fruit and animal faeces. They will be led Sir Alex Ferguson who will ring a bell shouting “Shame!” as the pitiful March makes its way through rival towns and cities.

 

[jrb]

Worth watching.