PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

Phil1 said:
I’d guess that huge swathes of U.K. football fans have their opinions formed by Sky Sports/BT, the red tops and other tabloid papers and TS.
All of these outlets have gone after City for years now and there’s no doubt it’s had a knock on affect which had led to opposition fans becoming more emboldened in how they talk to blues.
I’m in Spain so manage to avoid it but imagine those based in the line of fire must be getting fucking disillusioned by it all.
It’s hard to ignore when it’s constant.
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like i said its an echo chamber for idiots, same idiots saying the same things to other idiots, ask yourself this do you really care what the opinion of someone who gets their info from the daily mail or talkshite is? At most the circulation of talkshite and the print press is between 2 and 3 mill and even that i think is inflated, its just nothing but morons talking to morons, its moron squared.
 
Have seen a lot of posts on here stating that they can't understand why the club don't come out and make statements regarding the shit we are getting in the Media ect and not banning the shit journalists from the stadium. Why don't these posters email the club and ask them.
 
Dribble said:
To be fair, Ratboy has always been understanding of our plight & is one of the few who's called out FFP/PSR for the bullshit scams they are.

Spuds being praised as a model club is a case in point. They've not progressed beyond those ahead & the chasing pack behind, they've dragged everyone back to their level by supporting FFP/PSR.

The PL are in a race to the bottom of European football. It's evident the Red Top Mafia & Spuds couldn’t give a fuck, as long as when the PL hits the pits with a splat, they're still ahead of everyone else.

Utter madness! We need to launch a hostile takeover of the Premier League alongside the chasing pack who're finally waking up to the bit part they'll always play in the PL, with the way things currently stand.
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Would seem even Simon Jordon who believes were guilty as sin is coming to the conclusion that it will be unlikely that we will be found guilty due to the wider repercussions it would imply ! Accusations that a countries head of state is guilty of fraud for one and major sports brands have also.been involved another ! It seems that Cefron is trying to.vindicate his decision to charge City with perhaps yet another independent commission finding us not guilty ?? Just a thought l!
 
Eccles Blue said:
I am prefacing this post with the observation that I have deliberately kept away from this thread, and have only read the odd post now and again. Plus I have also purposely not read any further than headlines on News pages.
This is because I am at an age where I like to try to keep my blood pressure down as much as possible by not reading things that are going to get my exasperation and rage going!!

Therefore I am just going to ask one question: Do you as a BlueMoon poster/Manchester City supporter feel that City are innocent of all the charges or at least some of the charges?

I would hopefully get a straight yes or no answer as I am not even sure what charges have been brought. Sorry if I annoy some by not wanting to go deep, deep down into 165 or whatever charges. None of us as fans can truly know what the club are doing but do we think they are guilty?

Personally, through my blue tinted City loving glasses I wholeheartedly want to say no we are not guilty but I am realistic enough to know that the powers that be wouldn't open themselves to ridicule by bringing charges if they weren't satisfied that there is some substance. Plus I know how big business works, there are so many things that go on behind closed doors.


However whatever the outcome I will still state we are THE BEST TEAM IN THE LAND AND ALL THE WORLD. :-) CITY FOR EVER.
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Innocent EB.

No doubt we've looked at ways of maximising revenue as any business would, such as the Fordham image rights issue. UEFA looked at that and told us it wasn't within their rules and asked us to desist so it was wound up.

It's a good shout avoiding threads like these though :)
 
mimicmickmickdoyle said:
Have seen a lot of posts on here stating that they can't understand why the club don't come out and make statements regarding the shit we are getting in the Media ect and not banning the shit journalists from the stadium. Why don't these posters email the club and ask them.
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ill tell you exactly why they dont and its quite simple really, the reason is you cant fix stupid, it literally does not matter what we say to these people because they need to believe we are guilty, even when we are are found innocent it wont matter because we will still be guilty to these people because they need that safety blanket of us being the bad guys because then they dont have to face up to the reality of their clubs not being what they once were, so why would be waste energy on trying to convince morons when no matter what we say it will make zero difference, we will do what we always do and thats just keep on winning.
 
Manchester33 said:
In the days leading to the final, I received a call from an executive at City, who had been involved in a meeting with Ceferin earlier. He asked if we (1894) would 'tell' fans not to boo the anthem before the final. Ceferin had personally asked for it.
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If anyone says we shouldn’t boo the anthem then the quote above should be all the justification required.

It’s clear they don’t want us to do it, therefore we also know it inflicts even the smallest amount of pain or discomfort on the shower of deplorable bastards.

I shall be booing even louder in 2024.
 
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Semper aggressus said:
Would any other global brands put up with all this bullshit, lies and slander from journalists and rivals?

Maybe I’m wrong but I’m sure if companies like Coca Cola, Apple, Amazon, etc were enduring the kind of witch hunt City face they’d have sued all perpetrators for millions.

Why the fuck are we so fucking soft? It’s no wonder cunts like Carragher, Neville and dickhead journos perpetuate their lies and insinuations, they never have to face any challenge.

How about City pay the right kind of people to make up stories about some of our rivals‘ finances, or certain journos cheating on their wives …
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I know, it’s impacted terribly on the team.
 
ShaunMCFC said:
It shouldn’t be down to the fans, realistically what are we going to do? Give em the finger whilst they’re chowing down on a prawn and cucumber butty, it’s just more ammo for them to spout shite on twitter which then earns them a nice wedge. Ban them, hit them where it hurts.
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Stop them from getting in the ground, force them out by any mean necessary (not all of them of course)

I know it's been discussed in the past but City should be following suit with other clubs and banning some of these arseholes from the ground
 
Moss Side's Finest said:
Ever heard the phrase 'keep your enemies close'? It's especially important in business. In the long term it will undoubtedly benefit the club by trying to not let the UEFA relationship completely disintegrate. Love them or loath them, they are our main governing body, the path of least resistance is to try and at least keep the relationship cordial, because they have the ability to causes us considerable long term pain (as we have experienced)
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Even so, there's absolutely no reason why City couldn't have had a polite word with Ceferin about what happened in Istanbul and how unacceptable it all was. I wouldn't expect them to go in there like a bull in a china shop - just hand over the extensive report from City Matters along with the articles Rob Draper has written (the only journalist who seems to be fighting our corner on this) and ask him to read through it.
 
DD said:
I don't even remember 'Talkin' City. :-)

There's nothing miserable about my post, old scout. I'm the one who is sticking up for our club. Trying to be positive about what the club is doing.

This is what our enemies want. Blues to attack their own club. It's Manna from Heaven to them.

Of course the club is not beyond criticism and I too think they could have said more about the Istanbul issues, but this is different. When you get into a legal battle of the likes that we are in, you take the advice of your legal team before issuing statements.

If you believe that our club's legal team are making a complete arse of how they respond to the likes of Ceferin in public, then I'm assuming that you won't have much confidence in them defending us against the PL charges, because you seem to have no confidence in their approach.

Manchester City are now governed in their responses to this situation by their solicitors. This is not the time to go issuing statements without their consent.
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Look, I'm well aware what the club can and cannot say for legal reasons, and this is nothing to do with our legal team fighting the allegations - I trust them to do the best possible job on that score. I also don't expect the club to launch a public broadside against Ceferin.

However, I'd fully hope that they've had a friendly word or two behind the scenes with Ceferin about his interview in The Telegraph. And while I don't doubt for one minute that his words have been somewhat twisted, it was naive of him to even go near the topic in the first place as it's just gone and poured a fuck ton more petrol onto the fire.
 
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BeerIsTheBest said:
I liked your post but just add this for a sideways look at the clubs passive position.

I had read in several places that we scored points with CAS in demonstrating evidence of the tidal wave of pre-judgement, prejudicial comments and biased vitriol pre-hearing - and much from influencers in positions of power like Creterin.

Maybe, just maybe the club are boiling but keeping quiet and creating the evidence file which starts with the message…‘we have already been judged and hung, this myopic, one sided hysteria without any substance must have a bearing on the conscious and subconscious of the committee members.’
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Great point and probably true!
 
Moss Side's Finest said:
UEFA and the PL could literally exclude us from the very competitions the fans turn up to see. The priority is absolutely keeping the club in the competitions it needs to survive rather than looking after fans first world problems.

Our owner has given us more than we ever dreamt possible. Now they need to protect the club and are going about it the best they can. They don't need a bunch of fans moaning and complaining whilst they are trying to keep our great club from being potentially destroyed.
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Does that include Istanbul? Should we all shut the fuck up moaning and complaining about that as well?
 
mimicmickmickdoyle said:
Have seen a lot of posts on here stating that they can't understand why the club don't come out and make statements regarding the shit we are getting in the Media ect and not banning the shit journalists from the stadium. Why don't these posters email the club and ask them.
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I e-mailed the club in 2003 to ask how many loyalty points I had (back in the days when we couldn't easily check online) and I'm still waiting for them to answer
 
Eccles Blue said:
I am prefacing this post with the observation that I have deliberately kept away from this thread, and have only read the odd post now and again. Plus I have also purposely not read any further than headlines on News pages.
This is because I am at an age where I like to try to keep my blood pressure down as much as possible by not reading things that are going to get my exasperation and rage going!!

Therefore I am just going to ask one question: Do you as a BlueMoon poster/Manchester City supporter feel that City are innocent of all the charges or at least some of the charges?

I would hopefully get a straight yes or no answer as I am not even sure what charges have been brought. Sorry if I annoy some by not wanting to go deep, deep down into 165 or whatever charges. None of us as fans can truly know what the club are doing but do we think they are guilty?

Personally, through my blue tinted City loving glasses I wholeheartedly want to say no we are not guilty but I am realistic enough to know that the powers that be wouldn't open themselves to ridicule by bringing charges if they weren't satisfied that there is some substance. Plus I know how big business works, there are so many things that go on behind closed doors.


However whatever the outcome I will still state we are THE BEST TEAM IN THE LAND AND ALL THE WORLD. :-) CITY FOR EVER.
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Not guilty. Everything about the way this has been handled by City's accusers stinks to high heaven. And I know you don't want to get into the details (I sympathise) but if you read one post on here this year, read the long post by @Dribble (recent) explaining things.
 
Semper aggressus said:
Would any other global brands put up with all this bullshit, lies and slander from journalists and rivals?

Maybe I’m wrong but I’m sure if companies like Coca Cola, Apple, Amazon, etc were enduring the kind of witch hunt City face they’d have sued all perpetrators for millions.

Why the fuck are we so fucking soft? It’s no wonder cunts like Carragher, Neville and dickhead journos perpetuate their lies and insinuations, they never have to face any challenge.

How about City pay the right kind of people to make up stories about some of our rivals‘ finances, or certain journos cheating on their wives …
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Good post. I’ve been saying the same for years. We are most certainly the dog to be whipped as we never seem to respond or become more assertive with the clowns who repeatedly spout nonsense, bias and lies. It’s the clubs fault 100%. They all know they have a free pass to say and broadcast what they want without any come back from the club. The so they do. The more they get away with it the more poisonous and spiteful they become. The club should have never, ever let it come to this. The level of hate from the media against us is now getting extreme. Something needs to be done. However, as we know it won’t be. We as the fans just have to suck it up on a daily basis. I’m at the point of thinking, if the club are not prepared to defend themselves, their brand, their reputation and their fans, then neither am I. Enough is enough.
 
M18CTID said:
Even so, there's absolutely no reason why City couldn't have had a polite word with Ceferin about what happened in Istanbul and how unacceptable it all was. I wouldn't expect them to go in there like a bull in a china shop - just hand over the extensive report from City Matters along with the articles Rob Draper has written (the only journalist who seems to be fighting our corner on this) and ask him to read through it.
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A conversation that starts with fans backed UEFA against the super league, stop taking them for granted,
 
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