PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

Pablo ZZZ Peroni said:
For the sake of accuracy, it was 9 clubs and it was a legal filing and not a letter to the media.
Also, it wasn't demanding a sanction but requesting the CAS decision was not delayed by beyond the season end by appeal.

From CAS:

32. On 9 March 2020, 9 Premier League clubs filed an application for intervention (the
"Application for Intervention"), pursuant to Article R41.3 and R54 CAS Code for the
limited purpose of opposing any possible application by MCFC to request for a stay of
execution of the Appealed Decision. The clubs that jointly filed the application for
intervention were the following: i) Arsenal Football Club PLC; ii) Burnley Football &
Athletic Company Limited; iii) Chelsea Football Club Limited; iv) Leicester City
Football Club Limited; v) Liverpool Football Club Limited; vi) Manchester United
Football Company Limited; vii) Newcastle United Football Company Limited; viii)
Tottenham Hotspur Football & Athletic Co Ltd; and ix) Wolverhampton Wanderers
Football Club (1986) Limited.

The clubs got it horribly wrong though the busy bastards:

36. On 3 April 2020, the CAS Court Office info1med the 9 Premier League clubs that no
application for a stay of execution of the Appealed Decision had been filed and that
their Application for Intervention was therefore moot.
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Collusion in plain sight though.
 
waspish said:
Yep swap one corrupt kunt for an even worse one who wants to do us! Hill gets in he will change rules regarding how clubs own % of other clubs and youth players in your clubs you own! Gill is all in it for his team not interested in fair!
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gill has been pulling strings on this from the start, hes still a director on utds 'football' board .... you know , the one chelsea jim wants to run
 
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halfcenturyup said:
FAQs maybe, like:

What are the charges?
Do they represent fraud?
If it's fraud why isn't this in a criminal court?
Do the allegations imply breaching FFP?
Are any of the Pl allegations time-barred?
What is Etihad about?
What is Etisalat about?
What is Mancini's contract about?
What is the image rights issue?
How long will it take?
What is likely to happen?

And general background:
When was FFP introduced by UEFA and the PL?
What are UEFA's FFP rules?
What are the PL's FFP rules?
What was the 2014 settlement about?
Why was the club banned from the CL in 2019?
What did CAS say about UEFA's case?

Edit: I could volunteer to make a start on some of them if people think it is a good idea. Would have to be checked by people smarter than me, of course. @Ric , what do you think?
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IIRC you posted something ages ago suggesting something like this. I thought at the time it was a good idea.

I think it should start with these 2:
Do they represent fraud?
If it's fraud why isn't this in a criminal court?

I don't think these points have been mentioned yet... :) only joking

Serious point, and as suggested by you in your conversation with Dribble, is that it should be clear what is fact and what is opinion.
 
spinney said:
khaldoon said he would speak out once its over
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It's no good coming from Khaldoon, it needs to be a investigative journalist who has the balls to put his whole future on the line,as the cartel will come after him and try and destroy him as they have tried with us.
I'm not sure such a character exists in modern day journalism.
 
bluetonium said:
Thanks for that, will reread whilst my kids are doing their gym club later this morning. One initial thought though:

Rule B.13 requires all clubs to behave with utmost good faith to the league and the other clubs.

So where does that put the clubs who signed a letter asking for us to be punished immediately, to their own benefit, before the case was heard? Fanciful I know, but wouldn't it be something if we were not charged with a single offence, yet nine other clubs were...
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Where does that put Liverpool who hacked are computers.
 
BlueMoonz1977 said:
Underneath all of this saga is the truth....i have to hope that one day some entity or someone will expose it all and those behind it all are exposed for who they are and what their intentions & motivations were
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Maybe Martin Samuel’s could write a book about it - he’s the only sports journalist I can think of who appears to be non-partisan and has any integrity.
 
mimicmickmickdoyle said:
Where does that put Liverpool who hacked are computers.
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The PL did look into it (and probably knew at the time TBH) but both clubs decided to put it to rest. I do wish some posters on here could do that and move forward. Whataboutery posts are boring as fuck and irrelevant.
 
bobbyowenquiff said:
Collusion in plain sight though.
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Not really, they needed to know how to plan for the following season(s) and fully expected us to delay and delay. As it happened that wasn't what happened or what we wanted. I for one can understand their reasoning and it was all done via the correct route and not via the media.
 
Centurions said:
The PL did look into it (and probably knew at the time TBH) but both clubs decided to put it to rest. I do wish some posters on here could do that and move forward. Whataboutery posts are boring as fuck and irrelevant.
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We was fair as a club kept it quiet got a million moved on! Then they go after us with venom a never ending narrative! They didn't play fair!
 
117 M34 said:
In relation to:
3) Rules that require clubs to comply with UEFA’s FFP regulations, covering 2013/14 to 2017/18,

Why were united not charged by the premier league when they failed uefa ffp?
If its a PL rule that you must pass uefa ffp then surely they have failed and should be charged.
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I don't think that's it's not passing FFP that is the charge, I'd have thought it's the failure to co-operate and alleged hiding of funds which them lot weren't charged with. Don't get caught up in whataboutery bollocks.
 
Centurions said:
I don't think that's it's not passing FFP that is the charge, I'd have thought it's the failure to co-operate and alleged hiding of funds which them lot weren't charged with. Don't get caught up in whataboutery bollocks.
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I think whataboutery is relevant to discuss at times but I agree it’s no defence, I believe we can defend ourselves.

However I do think it’s ok to discuss on a forum if you believe there’s a case for others to answer. We know how clubs have colluded & then when you see charges around treating other clubs fairly. It sticks in the throat….
 
Chappie said:
It's no good coming from Khaldoon, it needs to be a investigative journalist who has the balls to put his whole future on the line,as the cartel will come after him and try and destroy him as they have tried with us.
I'm not sure such a character exists in modern day journalism.
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I'll do it...with eloquence and charm.

It'll fuck the bastards right over !!
 
Centurions said:
The PL did look into it (and probably knew at the time TBH) but both clubs decided to put it to rest. I do wish some posters on here could do that and move forward. Whataboutery posts are boring as fuck and irrelevant.
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What you mean is the Premier League looked into it and thought fuck it it's Liverpool let's move on.
 
Pablo ZZZ Peroni said:
IIRC you posted something ages ago suggesting something like this. I thought at the time it was a good idea.

I think it should start with these 2:
Do they represent fraud?
If it's fraud why isn't this in a criminal court?

I don't think these points have been mentioned yet... :) only joking

Serious point, and as suggested by you in your conversation with Dribble, is that it should be clear what is fact and what is opinion.
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:) I did and nobody was interested then, either. People seem to be happier asking the same questions over and over again. More traffic for the site, at least.

Never mind, I doubt Ric would pay my hourly rate anyway :D
 
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Centurions said:
Not really, they needed to know how to plan for the following season(s) and fully expected us to delay and delay. As it happened that wasn't what happened or what we wanted. I for one can understand their reasoning and it was all done via the correct route and not via the media.
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Possibly. Out of interest, what do you think CAS would have said if City had asked for a delay, and do you think the response of CAS in that situation would have been in any way affected by that letter?
 
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