Rishi Sunak

TBF I doubt too many people would think of going to pharmacist so even if it is a rehash (not sure it is or isn’t) if it makes people more aware of it as an option then it’s a worthwhile “announcement”.

I’ll just pull you up when you say they have no medical training, that is a little unfair. Part of their qualification includes clinical examination skills.
Would you expect a woman to lift up her shirt and show her rib and bust area to a pharmacist who is not a qualifield dr or nurse ? Part of their training is looking at rashes and atheletes foot etc and they cant diagnose uti or shingles without an examination
 
All I can see coming from this is almighty queues forming inside Pharmacy shops and people waiting for prescriptions having to wait longer until the Pharmacist is free to release he prescription
Pushing people towards deliveroo style prescription deliveries and overcharging them for the service.
 
All I can see coming from this is almighty queues forming inside Pharmacy shops and people waiting for prescriptions having to wait longer until the Pharmacist is free to release he prescription
And people getting irate when they are told to see their doctor. Unless the number of pharmacists are greatly bolstered this will be chaos , another reason sunaks lies are unforgivable , messing with peoples health
 
And people getting irate when they are told to see their doctor. Unless the number of pharmacists are greatly bolstered this will be chaos , another reason sunaks lies are unforgivable , messing with peoples health
He's ok though.

He's got access to whatever he wants whenever he wants. In his head so do we and doesn't understand why we complain all the time.

He has an incurable case of affluenza.
 
Would you expect a woman to lift up her shirt and show her rib and bust area to a pharmacist who is not a qualifield dr or nurse ? Part of their training is looking at rashes and atheletes foot etc and they cant diagnose uti or shingles without an examination
To be fair I went to my Pharmacist to get my suspected shingles looked at in 2022.
The examination was done quickly and sensitively in a private area and the suspicion was confirmed and I was sent to A and E for quick treatment.
It was loads better than having to wait for a GP appointment, plus having had a baby and smears over the years I am past being embarrassed about anything really lol.
 
All I can see coming from this is almighty queues forming inside Pharmacy shops and people waiting for prescriptions having to wait longer until the Pharmacist is free to release he prescription
That already happens at our chemists every Bank Holiday because they re short-staffed - huge queues of grumpy folks trying to get their prescription. But they are able to recruit bouncers to manage the queue so I expect that the next Tory manifesto will tell you to see the bouncer about your ailments. He will then tell you to piss off and that way the waiting list reduces...
 
Would you expect a woman to lift up her shirt and show her rib and bust area to a pharmacist who is not a qualifield dr or nurse ? Part of their training is looking at rashes and atheletes foot etc and they cant diagnose uti or shingles without an examination

I don’t disagree but I would say they’d happily do it to a HCA who isn’t qualified. I guess it’s as much to do with the setting as the person examining them - and that’s not a criticism. I’d also presume the pharmacist would be paid a few pennies for their advice and they’d be some sort of oversight and audit.

If you know you need to be examined in that way I would still expect that person to go to their GPs as normal - what this should do is free up people like me who need a course of antibiotics or something from taking up a GP appointment- if it doesn’t clear it then I go see my GP. I recently had an infection that the GP diagnosed over a phone consultation, something a pharmacist could equally do I am sure.
 
That already happens at our chemists every Bank Holiday because they re short-staffed - huge queues of grumpy folks trying to get their prescription. But they are able to recruit bouncers to manage the queue so I expect that the next Tory manifesto will tell you to see the bouncer about your ailments. He will then tell you to piss off and that way the waiting list reduces...

Just like the GP receptionists then
 
My wife works in the NHS and this is part of a pattern - instead of dealing with the issue they find a bit of the NHS that is still functioning and then send people there until that stops functioning. Then people get hacked off and leave, making it more intolerable for those that are left.

She works in Treatment Rooms which was hard work but doing OK. Then they started getting people out of hospital as fast as they could because the hospitals were overwhelmed. So next thing is the District Nurses are overwhelmed and in Special Measures and literally if you can get out of bed the DN's now won't see you, so the Treatment Rooms are overwhelmed. And now people are being directed to Pharmacies, I wonder what will happen there?
 
My wife works in the NHS and this is part of a pattern - instead of dealing with the issue they find a bit of the NHS that is still functioning and then send people there until that stops functioning. Then people get hacked off and leave, making it more intolerable for those that are left.

She works in Treatment Rooms which was hard work but doing OK. Then they started getting people out of hospital as fast as they could because the hospitals were overwhelmed. So next thing is the District Nurses are overwhelmed and in Special Measures and literally if you can get out of bed the DN's now won't see you, so the Treatment Rooms are overwhelmed. And now people are being directed to Pharmacies, I wonder what will happen there?
Just another step towards privatisation
 
Is there any none biased information relating to the pharmacy? Mine is always busy as they have post office services at the same till and one person manning it all. Wondering what incentive the pharmacists receive for the extra work? After the experience my mrs just had in A&E with a kidney infection at 34 weeks pregnant having to wait 9 hours with a load of pissheads, mentally ill and timewasters anything has to be better than what we currently have!

The incentive is the nhs is paying shedloads for the pharmacies to do it. I work for a big chain of them.

The issue is there’s still a lack of actual pharmacists though.
 
I don’t disagree but I would say they’d happily do it to a HCA who isn’t qualified. I guess it’s as much to do with the setting as the person examining them - and that’s not a criticism. I’d also presume the pharmacist would be paid a few pennies for their advice and they’d be some sort of oversight and audit.

If you know you need to be examined in that way I would still expect that person to go to their GPs as normal - what this should do is free up people like me who need a course of antibiotics or something from taking up a GP appointment- if it doesn’t clear it then I go see my GP. I recently had an infection that the GP diagnosed over a phone consultation, something a pharmacist could equally do I am sure.
There are not many perscribing pharmacists so unless that has changed and it is rolled out to every pharmacy you are likely to have to ring around your area to find one , might as well hang on the phone to the doctors
 
You’ve directly contradicted yourself here, all in the space of two sentences.

If you don’t think that it will reduce the pressures on GP appointments, and you think that people will continue to go to their GPs, then why should the initiative simply redistribute the problem to other areas of the health service? And if people do use other areas of the health service, then why wouldn’t that reduce the pressures on GP appointments?

Nobody is suggesting that the initiative is going to single-handedly solve the problem of GP appointments, rather that for a specific list of ailments, people can choose to go to their pharmacy and still receive a prescribed drug if they wish rather than having to go to their GP.

I don’t think it will have any impact or reduce pressure on GP appointments. This ‘initiative’ is a headline presented as a solution. To increase availability of GPS you need more GPs. When you are at the limits of finite capacity you either increase capacity or accept a reduced and inferior service.

These are our choices. Pick one.
 
There are not many perscribing pharmacists so unless that has changed and it is rolled out to every pharmacy you are likely to have to ring around your area to find one , might as well hang on the phone to the doctors

From 2026 newly qualified will all be prescribers but I think that’s probably a fair reflection of what will happen in practice in a number of areas - at least for the next few years it’ll be a lottery at best.

Government announces policy long before it can be implemented … colour me shocked.
 
From 2026 newly qualified will all be prescribers but I think that’s probably a fair reflection of what will happen in practice in a number of areas - at least for the next few years it’ll be a lottery at best.

Government announces policy long before it can be implemented … colour me shocked.
They are desperate for something to stick in election year , the public will have soon sussed everything to be bollocks in time for the election , hopefully
 
I don’t think it will have any impact or reduce pressure on GP appointments. This ‘initiative’ is a headline presented as a solution. To increase availability of GPS you need more GPs. When you are at the limits of finite capacity you either increase capacity or accept a reduced and inferior service.

These are our choices. Pick one.


It’s now not just about training more GPs, it’s retaining them. You can’t fix a leaking bath by turning the tap on more, you need to stop the leaks. If it helps with the leaks it’ll be a one step back in the right direction.
 

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