PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

Centurions said:
UEFA only monitor clubs that have failed FFP in the first place to ensure that they're moving in the right direction, since united haven't failed the PL's PSR (so far at least) they wouldn't be announcing they're monitoring them. I'm not even sure they do it regardless. The first part of your post is just nonsensical speculation, whether you're having it or not. Oh, and their thread is in general football BTW.
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But thats confusing. Utd failed FFP recently. Are they going to be monitored?
Are you saying UEFA only monitor clubs that have already failed? How do they catch someone who has breached first time?

And in general anyone else. How much did utd breach ffp and how much Everton? I dont want to trust the PL level of fines as the indicator because its all well and truly dodgy.
 
Gorton_Tubster said:
But thats confusing. Utd failed FFP recently. Are they going to be monitored?
Are you saying UEFA only monitor clubs that have already failed? How do they catch someone who has breached first time?

And in general anyone else. How much did utd breach ffp and how much Everton? I dont want to trust the PL level of fines as the indicator because its all well and truly dodgy.
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You're confusing UEFA FFP and the PL PSR. Everyone in UEFA competitions have to submit their books for scrutiny.
 
Dribble said:
Exactly. Fans have had to become lay accountants & lawyers, just to understand what's happening with their team. It's ridiculous.

Then there's the farce of solvent clubs being fined huge amounts & having points docked for investing over the PL's imposed limits.

If ManUre & Spuds can be over £1bn in debt, but because of their turnover, they're fine, why aren't Everton & Forest who have minted owners who're happy to cover any losses personally also fine too?

This arbitrary £105m loss is utter bollocks. Losses should be judged as a percentage of turnover, taking into account an owners' ability to turn any club debt into equity.

The PL are taking away every fans' ability to dream of their club winning the lottery. Just as I told a Newcastle fan some time ago, "Being the richest club in the world is one thing. Try spending any of that wealth & see what happens to you". It's only now they're getting it.

All his bullshit about Newcastle trying to do it the right way has gone up in smoke. They need to kick on & evolve their playing personnel, but they face an Everton if they try, unless the sell their best players to fund additions.

Utter, total madness. How did the Cartel Clubs manage to convince so many PL clubs, this style of FFP/PSR was good for the game & in their best interests?
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On your last point…crumbs from the Masters (no pun intended) table I suppose.
 
Centurions said:
You're confusing UEFA FFP and the PL PSR. Everyone in UEFA competitions have to submit their books for scrutiny.
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OK so utd failed psr not ffp. So don't uefa monitor them? In fact if you could explain a bit more it would help.

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Nvm I think I understand. Utd failed PL Psr Hence not UEFA.

Nonetheless my original question, how much did utd fail and how much Everton. Anyone?
 

As nouns the difference between cabal and cartel​

is that cabal is a usually secret exclusive organization of individuals gathered for a political purpose while cartel is a group of businesses or nations that collude to limit competition within an industry or market.

So here we had the cabal of the cartel..!!
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Gorton_Tubster said:
OK so utd failed psr not ffp. So don't uefa monitor them? In fact if you could explain a bit more it would help.

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Nvm I think I understand. Utd failed PL Psr Hence not UEFA.

Nonetheless my original question, how much did utd fail and how much Everton. Anyone?
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The other way around. United failed UEFA FFP, not the PL Profitability and Sustainability Rules.
 
Chippy_boy said:
Ah yes it was much better when Swales was around. It was all about the fans then?!??
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Well I was there outside the Maine Stand after Peter Reid got sacked before the Coventry match, and I'm sure that was the start of the end of him!

You're right though we were treated like Sh!t then, and are treated much better now.
 
BerkshireBlue said:
We're charged with failing Uefa's ffp rules though

3. In respect of each of Seasons 2013/14 to 2017/18 inclusive, the Premier League Rules applicable in those Seasons requiring a member club to comply with UEFA’s regulations, including UEFA’s Club Licensing and Financial Fair Play Regulations, namely:
(a) for Season 2013/14, Premier League Rule B.14.6; and
(b) for Seasons 2014/15 to 2017/18 inclusive, Premier League Rule B.15.6.

so therefore United and any other team punished by Uefa are bang to rights and in United's case it's an open-and-shut case
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We aren't charged with failing FFP but I'd guess that it's more to do with allegedly providing misleading accounts. Same for the PL's PSR.
 
Prestwich_Blue said:
We aren't charged with failing FFP but I'd guess that it's more to do with allegedly providing misleading accounts. Same for the PL's PSR.
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plus this isn't about cities charge this is about United escape one. The should be charged with " member clubs must comply with UEFA’s regulations, including UEFA’s Club Licensing and Financial Fair Play Regulations"
 
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