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The Dippers played out of their skin 2nd half and we had probably our worst 45 minutes of football this season and they still couldnt beat us , for all their whinging about a non penalty , we missed just as any chances as them and we were far from our best. One day soon we are going to take these bastards apart and score a hatful , with Clubshop gone they will become an average team and club vying for a top six spot , the Dippers are done after this season.
 
Thought it was good exercise for Europe, they threw the kitchen sink at us and failed. They needed to win IMO, they fucked it.
Yeah it’s a good test to see us stand up to that kind pressure and I guarantee one thing, we won’t come under that kind of pressure again all season and especially in the CL. Yes we didn’t play well, but we didn’t lose and that was so important and a good sign hopefully for the rest of the season.
 
Office full of dippers, all banging on how we couldn't even beat their 2nd string.
It's gonna be a long day
 
It's easy to understand and I was writing about it before the game. Klopp's teams compensate for the technical inferiority of their players by upping the intensity. They managed to outrun us. Their press stopped us from feeding the attacking players with promising passes.

Consider the following scenario: City vs a league 2 team. If the players of the latter run 120 km and City only 90 km, or if they make much more sprints than our players, then the gap in quality will be significantly diminished.

Klopp's open secret is energy or intensity. Liverpool almost never dominate games in which they are outrun. They control games by working harder than the opposition. Obviously, this strategy can't work for multiple seasons in a row. That's why Liverpool have finished in the top 2 only two seasons in a row (18/19 and 19/20), whereas City have done it for 6 seasons in a row.
And their pitch is borderline not big enough for top football, so there's less space for them to cover.

If the press or anyone starts saying we struggle with the Anfield atmosphere, we need to push back that we struggle playing on a junior pitch. Make that the story.
 
I didn't watch a minute of the game and have still only seen the short highlights they put up on youtube. We never win at Anfield, I didn't expect us to and I told myself not to bother because there's usually some controversy. I'd seen the lineups and the Liverpool team was so fucking weak I did get a bit of hope we could beat them. But then I saw the City side and thought we looked far too unbalanced. I was expecting Kovacic in there instead of Alvarez but sounds like we were decent in the first half and then we started to struggle.

More than happy with a point, especially as that probably should have been a penalty at the end. We have to beat Arsenal though. If we don't it will take a lot for us to go and win the title again in my opinion.
If we don't beat Arsenal then I think we could be too reliant on them and Liverpool dropping points thereafter, whilst we would probably have to be perfect.
 
If we replace the squad every time we drop points at Anfield we'll never have players for longer than a season.
Agree, but i dont think wholesale changes are needed, and this thought isnt based on yesterdays game.

Exploits over the last year play a big part in just needing to now refresh it certain areas
 
The biggest worry this season for me is midfield, I'm not sure what's going on but average teams are cutting through us in the middle of the park with ease. Chelsea, spurs, Liverpool and even the rags have managed to break our lines with a couple passes. Pep made a big mistake in this game not starting kova imo. We needed that extra body in there, but a lot of the experienced lads were making a lot of unforced errors as well. Not sure what the answer is, we still have at least 2 gears to go up and this is the month its needed. Arsenal is a must-win, hopefully rags and Spurs can do something against Arsenal and Liv but we also have to play Spurs..
 
Office full of dippers, all banging on how we couldn't even beat their 2nd string.
It's gonna be a long day
That's a fair criticism IMO. How many of the Liverpool 11 that started would get into our side?

I'd say VVD and that's about it. Pathetic effort from our lot IMO and I am still pissed off about it.
 
Not good enough today, literally crumbled after the Ake mistake. Can't let one mistake cause you to fall apart but it did.

Both disappointed but relieved with a point.

However... It SHOULDN'T have come to this. It's on those fucking shoddy mid season draws that meant a draw today was a disappointing result.

Crystal Palace, Chelsea, Spurs and the twats we played today at home. That's where the blame lies. 8 points we squandered in those 4 games. Not saying we should have won all those games and thus be 7 points clear but had we won 1 or 2 of those instead of draw (which we really should have done), a draw today would have been a GREAT result.

We've only ourselves to blame when you look at the bigger picture...

We have to win every game in the PL to retain the title in my view. The margins are that fine.

I'd love us to do it but Jesus Christ we've made it way harder and way more energy sapping as a result. I just can't see a treble repeat as a result. The only reason we cleaned up last season was because Arsenal choked, thus giving us 2 weeks to freshen up. We won't have this this year. Something's got to give. I just hope I'm wrong.

Every team can say that. Liverpool have drawn 7 games and lost 2. A few of those were games they fully expected to win. Same with arsenal with the 8 games they haven't won.

Both of those will be wondering how they dropped points in those games and are now in a fight with just a point or so between the 3 teams.

That's football. Liverpool have failed to win 9 games, arsenal 8, us 9.

So that means all 3 teams drop points in about 1 game in 3 over the course of the season so far. So it's highly unlikely all 3 won't drop more points in the next 10. Its just who drops the least now.
 
We couldn't match their energy in the 2nd half. Their energy levels were superior (how could Diaz run like this?) and compensated for the inexperience of their younger/new players. People who judge football players or teams on paper are a bit clueless.

Let's be honest here. That was a really bad mistake by Ake, up there with Cancelo or even worse. He's a wonderful squad player, but no more than that. Imagine the comments if that was Gvardiol? Akanji has been the better player last and this season, but you would never guess it by reading this forum. Game of favourites.

Pep has to tweak the midfield. It's very difficult to make room for all of KDB, Foden, Haaland and Alvarez in big (!) games. We got a bit better with Kovacic and Doku. But we miss Gundogan. It's not easy to replace his intelligence, calmness and ability to score from midfield.
Ake has been outstanding this season, we would have been in the creek without a paddle without him
 
I feared the worst when Salah came on. He's quality and nearly always has a good game against us, but a part from a great ball just after coming on (to Nunez IIRC), thankfully he had a surprisingly poor game.
He obviously wasn't anywhere near 100% fit cos if he was he would have started as they were so depleted
 
What did people make of the Doku challenge at the end.
To be honest when I saw a few replays at the time, I was shocked that it wasn't given. It was strange though as I didn't think that the appeals were that strong by Liverpool so maybe this played a part.

Fucking daft challenge when he'd time before that to clear the ball. Similar to the Forest players last week who dallied on the ball on the edge of the box and cost them the match.
 

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