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mancityvstoke said:
or will employers have insurance in place for people on valium etc half asleep?
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well they already have to have liability insurance in place but if they are potentially raising the risk they present that will result in even higher costs to the business which is inflationary and bad for business
 
bluethrunthru said:
well they already have to have liability insurance in place but if they are potentially raising the risk they present that will result in even higher costs to the business which is inflationary and bad for business
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Realistically they are not going to employ anyone with mental health issues so severe that it presents a risk in the workplace and potentially to other workers. Many are potentially violent too when presented with stressful situations. Many do not like social interaction and indeed can have severe debilitating panic attacks or fits of anger.

It's all total bollocks.
 
mancityvstoke said:
Realistically they are not going to employ anyone with mental health issues.

It's all total bollocks.
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as its not planned to come in until after the GE it has no chance - Sunak knows that but with every passing day they have a new scandal to distract us from so the announcements are wilder and wilder - I suspect by next Wednesday morning they will announce the introduction of Logans Run to fix the housing crisis and social care issues all in one.
 
mancityvstoke said:
or will employers have insurance in place for people on valium etc half asleep?
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There are plenty of people with physical and or mental health issues who could work rw8th easonable adjustments and employer support but so many companies have costs pared to the bone to maximise shareholder returns and the public sector has been decimated
 
bluethrunthru said:
as its not planned to come in until after the GE it has no chance - Sunak knows that but with every passing day they have a new scandal to distract us from so the announcements are wilder and wilder - I suspect by next Wednesday morning they will announce the introduction of Logans Run to fix the housing crisis and social care issues all in one.
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They've had 14 years of trying to get people back into work. Sick and disabled people.

Apparently it's gone and is getting worse. I think they failed. Many killed themselves.
 
bluethrunthru said:
There are a tiny minority who take the piss - however look how the hospital waiting lists have grown, look at the headlines about how certain meds are hard if not impossible to get, the collapse in the provision of mental health treatments, the collapse of social care so people have to be at home to care for sick and elderly people the state has abandoned then ask yourself why - I am afraid you are falling for their trick.
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100% correct . Waiting lists growing by the day for hospital treatment, can’t get Doctors appointments for weeks , medication not available partly because of Brexit , social care practically non existent . These wankers know exactly what they are doing and the gullible fall for it .
 
Here is my pips story this last year so far

A year ago they sent me the forms , i had three weeks to fill out and return or they would stop my pips , i get the odd text to say they still have my forms , i have lived in fear every day of the letter coming to say no and having to go through the terrible appeal process

You have to tell them if you get better or worse ,if you dont they can stop your pips , rang today , hanging on for literally an hour to get through , told her i have got worse this last few months , hospital tests etc , she said my claim is still waiting to be processed

They rule by fear by telling you they can stopping the benefit at anytime but sunak thinks it is to easy to get pips , ****
 
kaz7 said:
Here is my pips story this last year so far

A year ago they sent me the forms , i had three weeks to fill out and return or they would stop my pips , i get the odd text to say they still have my forms , i have lived in fear every day of the letter coming to say no and having to go through the terrible appeal process

You have to tell them if you get better or worse ,if you dont they can stop your pips , rang today , hanging on for literally an hour to get through , told her i have got worse this last few months , hospital tests etc , she said my claim is still waiting to be processed

They rule by fear by telling you they can stopping the benefit at anytime but sunak thinks it is to easy to get pips , ****
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Most PIP ongoing claims but they are understaffed and behind. If your condition has worsened and are not IRO the top rate for care and mobility you can ask for a full re assessment. They can also reduce your award following re assessment
 
Mr Fraser said:
Most PIP ongoing claims but they are understaffed and behind. If your condition has worsened and are not IRO the top rate for care and mobility you can ask for a full re assessment. They can also reduce your award following re assessment
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I am on the top rate now, this is a review, not unusual it has taken a year apparantly , i dont want yet another in person assessment , i have had several of them over the years , just want to know where i stand as my current pips runs out in june , she said if they havent processed my claim by then then they extend the payments by one year , what a stupid system it is
 
kaz7 said:
I am on the top rate now, this is a review, not unusual it has taken a year apparantly , i dont want yet another in person assessment , i have had several of them over the years , just want to know where i stand as my current pips runs out in june , she said if they havent processed my claim by then then they extend the payments by one year , what a stupid system it is
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Mrs had hers done over the phone and renewed within less than a month, no idea why yours is taking a year.
 
Many PIP recipients are in the same position as Kaz. Waiting months and months past their review date.
 
Scottyboi said:
Mrs had hers done over the phone and renewed within less than a month, no idea why yours is taking a year.
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Not even processed yet , somebody else said on here they have been waiting a year as well,i keep checking in with them to make sure they havent lost it but it is still with the assessors
 
kaz7 said:
Not even processed yet , somebody else said on here they have been waiting a year as well,i keep checking in with them to make sure they havent lost it but it is still with the assessors
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Crazy situation to be in as it can be life changing for a lot of people if they lose that money. After the last assessment they put her 1 point below full mobility the wankers haha swear they are on commission!
 
Scottyboi said:
Crazy situation to be in as it can be life changing for a lot of people if they lose that money. After the last assessment they put her 1 point below full mobility the wankers haha swear they are on commission!
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They are under instruction to say no at every turn , at one assessment they got a tape measure out and measured both my wrists to make sure i wasnt lying about not being able to use my bad one , no word of a lie , they are scum

If i lose pips it has a knock on to my other one and that has a knock on into council tax and car tax etc , devestating
 
The sad reality is that increasing numbers of people are struggling to cope with modern life and the modern world, and that has, and will continue to manifest itself in increasing mental health issues and a breakdown of law and order. I’m not sure it’s limited to this country either.

I think all this technology is slowly sending us nuts.
 
gordondaviesmoustache said:
The sad reality is that increasing numbers of people are struggling to cope with modern life and the modern world, and that has, and will continue to manifest itself in increasing mental health issues and a breakdown of law and order. I’m not sure it’s limited to this country either.

I think all this technology is slowly sending us nuts.
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It’s not the technology more the way it is being used to create mistrust and a here and now based on lies.
 
kaz7 said:
They are under instruction to say no at every turn , at one assessment they got a tape measure out and measured both my wrists to make sure i wasnt lying about not being able to use my bad one , no word of a lie , they are scum

If i lose pips it has a knock on to my other one and that has a knock on into council tax and car tax etc , devestating
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When I was assessed, I did a lot of research online beforehand and was alarmed at the number of claimants had said that what was said at interview, was not what was wriiten in the assessment report. I also learnt that if you ask to see the notes written at assessment, they have to show them.

When I went in, I took a colleague (to ensure fair play) and said before we start, I want to see everything you type today to ensure what I say is accurately reflected in your assessment report, and I want an email copy. Thankfully, I had an assessor who was, not only happy for me to read the notes, but also allowed me to make changes if saw fit (which I made several).

What was expected to be a daunting assessment, was fairly good for me, but I know there are many horror stories out there.

My advice Kaz is, if they haul you in for an assessment, do as I did and make sure you agree on what is written before you leave.

Good luck
 
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