FA Cup Semi Final | Coventry City v United

[Odd socks]

Didn't watch this but did watch the dippers game, goal scored and VAR decided it was so tight that they stayed with the on field decision - benefited the dippers obviously.

 

[LangleyBlue1970]

Its offside if you dont put the line in the right place and/or dont measure from the end of the defenders foot but the middle instead

Everyone can do that. It was offside. Again though, if they wanted them through they wouldn’t have awarded the pen for cov. This moaning is RAWK like.

 

[Stephen230]

Quite right. Thing to remember is what the offside law was introduced for.
It was brought in to prevent what we used to call ‘goal hanging‘. It was not introduced to try see if a bloke with size 11 feet is marginally closer to the goal that the bloke with size 6’s!
Have never understood why they don’t just say, if ANY part of an attacker is onside, it’s onside. It’d clear all this nonsense up once and for all and would help the assistant referees no end.
Finally, to people who say ‘they’re the rules’, so is the rule saying the keeper should be behind the line until the kick is taken, which was undoubtedly ignored in that shoot out.

It wouldn’t clear anything up. You’re just moving the issue further up the field. Would still be as many marginal calls as there are now.

 

[Bluemoonadam]

Its offside if you dont put the line in the right place and/or dont measure from the end of the defenders foot but the middle instead

That angle and them lines he looks onside lol, but when I watched the reply live I did think shit he's offside. He was just offside sadly.

 

[SebastianBlue]

There is always an error as the frame rate of the cameras is not real time. It can be as much as several inches depending on how fast players are moving and how hard the ball is struck

Yes, I have spoken about that before (and others have posted analysis from experts regarding those limitations) and that is part of my point.

 

[remember arthur mann]

Is there a luckier team around.
They are a fucking joke.
Every fucking week!

Not luck, just bent.

 

[Betterdeedthan red]

Will onana, be suspended for the final? Martinez misses Villas next European match?

No the rules have just been altered .

 

[Blackley_Blue]

Notice that a lot of the rags were at home by the time their players were doing the half lap clap after the pens.

Where as the Coventry end was (rightly) packed applauding their teams efforts.

Telling.

 

[ysmsa]

Line goes thru the middle of AWB foot

Wan Bisakas boots, and he still played the attacker off!

 

[Stephen230]

I think he'll get a ban for the next league match.

Cautions are competition specific and FA Cup accumulative cautions are wiped after the 5th round. So he won’t be banned.

 

[skillman]

 

[Betterdeedthan red]

Didn't watch this but did watch the dippers game, goal scored and VAR decided it was so tight that they stayed with the on field decision - benefited the dippers obviously.

I'd say you can't make it up.
But you can.
I was going to go to the cup final I feel like not bothering it's a long way to go to be cheated

 

[deano ou812]

You know just thinking when the rags were winning titles and getting to FA Cup finals not once did we come close yes we were shit,but now the tables have turned I find it strange that they have got to finals when basically they are shit as well something just doesn’t add up ..

 

[LesBleuMiserable]

Its offside if you dont put the line in the right place and/or dont measure from the end of the defenders foot but the middle instead

Cov foot is at 45 angle United player at straight ahead not sure how you can measure that accurately to rule out goal

 

[SebastianBlue]

It wouldn’t clear anything up. You’re just moving the issue further up the field. Would still be as many marginal calls as there are now.

This is correct.

The bottom line, though, is the system is simply not accurate enough to be making these types of inch-on, inch-off decisions.

And, as it stands, is far too susceptible to human error or manipulation.

 

[HypnoticBlue]

There is always an error as the frame rate of the cameras is not real time. It can be as much as several inches depending on how fast players are moving and how hard the ball is struck

Simple answer is to have automated offside not some blind/bent/bias/bribable person running it, then it’s quick and acceptable to fans.

* blind/bent/bias/bribable (delete as needed)

 

[lust overlord]

You know just thinking when the rags were winning titles and getting to FA Cup finals not once did we come close yes we were shit,but now the tables have turned I find it strange that they have got to finals when basically they are shit as well something just doesn’t add up ..

You're probably just underestimating how shit we actually were at times, back in the day.

 

[bernard o'silver]

Sure look at last years final. Casimero should have got a straight red yet the ref gave them a free kick!..then the Grealish penalty. There were other things but can’t be arsed with the favouritism they get anymore. It’s a joke.

Absolutely, the Casimero 'tackle' was right in front of us , to say I was outraged that the free kick was given to the rags is an understatement

 

[SebastianBlue]

I genuinely thought it was just my eyes.

So not only could they have chosen the wrong frame to select for determining offside and the frames themselves could have not actually captured the real moment the ball was released, but it looks like the line for the reference defender was not even at the extremity of the playable surface of their body closest to their own goal.

This system is riddled with issues.

 

[Bluearmy]

Cov foot is at 45 angle United player at straight ahead not sure how you can measure that accurately to rule out goal

its quite simple. You measure the part of the foot which is the furthest forward. VAR havent dont this as can be clearly seen on the pics in this incident…