PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

We are going to build up a lot of surplus cash under these new rules by all accounts , thankfully , and to our advantage , we have the best talent producing academy in the country, the PL won’t stop City , they didn’t then and won’t now . United being affected is poetic justice , but I have a feeling something else is at play here , it’s very very odd that these rules will affect them more than anybody else potentially in the future.
 
I know it was mentioned by a poster back in February on another thread, but Shalke are deep in the shit and facing going out of business (there is an article on the BBC sport now. Whatever the German FFP rules are, it hasn't stopped them getting to this situation and their ownership model clearly isn't working for this club and it's reported that the fanbase is split about new investment.
They have an amazing fanbase and probably wouldn't want to admit how closely comparable we are but our new rules being proposed wouldn't save them either. Some clubs, it would appear, are just badly run - who would have thought it.
 
Why Milan offices raided by Italian financial police https://football-italia.net/why-milan-offices-raided-by-italian-financial-police/

Portuguese police raid Benfica and Sporting offices in corruption inquiry https://www.theguardian.com/footbal...estigation-benfica-sporting?CMP=share_btn_url

Italian police RAID Juventus' club offices amid transfer probe https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/f...tml?ito=native_share_article-nativemenubutton

Corruption.
Offices raided.
False accounts.
Computers seized.

@projectriver

Aren't we being accused of the same or similar offence?
Not really. Each case is different. In any event, just because those raids occurred doesn't mean much in this context.
 
I know it was mentioned by a poster back in February on another thread, but Shalke are deep in the shit and facing going out of business (there is an article on the BBC sport now. Whatever the German FFP rules are, it hasn't stopped them getting to this situation and their ownership model clearly isn't working for this club and it's reported that the fanbase is split about new investment.
They have an amazing fanbase and probably wouldn't want to admit how closely comparable we are but our new rules being proposed wouldn't save them either. Some clubs, it would appear, are just badly run - who would have thought it.
11 managers in 12 years, poor overpriced recruitment, poor player sales, spending money they haven’t got, debts mounting. Was Swales their president?
 
I see Ian Herbert has written a snide City piece about financial ‘gymnastics’ in the Mail which indicates all the weekend noise about legal letters and the media being pulled into line is a load of bollocks.
Don’t worry mate, one day we’ll be shit again - and then you can be truly happy.
 
It's shite like this that opposition fans see and believe. Regardless of what happens we will be guilty in the eyes of the thicker element of the footballing community. I know it's utter shite, but it's utter shite that people believe.

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I think we can class this lot with all the Liverpool based accounts and Liverpool Echo shite. They really have a hard on for us.
 
Revenue then isn’t going to be as important to us like in times gone by , so basically we could drop £100m in revenue and it wouldn’t affect our spending on players whatsoever , United have been dogshit for 10 years , and their revenue has largely been unaffected , when they eventually get their act together (and they will ) its united that are really going to be affected more than anyone else, they do circa £600m of revenue even being the laughing stock that they are. If these new rules are to be brought in then it’s a very shortsighted set of rules that all “big” clubs should be very wary of. We as a club now can compete at the very highest level because of our growth on and off the pitch for the last 10 years plus. If these rules are to be brought in , then these rules have to set in stone for at least five years with no ability by the PL to change the “rules” to suit the clubs that want to ruin us. The rules in place as we speak have ruined clubs dreams. What they haven’t realised under all this is it’s what you do on the pitch that really matters, and not the ability to spend spend spend to keep up with nasty Manchester City.
 
ive not read to much about this, months if not years back maybe our owners discussed and examined every avenue the PL could possibly go down to have us restricted, those current restrictions at the time and future possible restrictions like this and the result was/is the 1st class facilitys we have over the bridge at the Etihad and the rapid expansion of CFG, was it not the intention from day one to produce our own instead of chucking millions about, we will cherry pick from the CFG and our own academy and plus have whatever to spend under the new rules, in the not to near future this will benefit us while clubs like Man United, Liverpool and Arsenal have the financial life sucked out of them by greedy American owners.
Another own goal from the PL i think, maybe were not seeing the wood for the trees' here
 
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Buy the next superstar from South America for peanuts and CFG build them a new stand, there's ways around it
 
It's shite like this that opposition fans see and believe. Regardless of what happens we will be guilty in the eyes of the thicker element of the footballing community. I know it's utter shite, but it's utter shite that people believe.

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At the end of the day if you read this and choose to believe it then your opinion matters as much as the crazy guy that talks to pigeons or ten haag and can be dismissed as such.
 
I see Ian Herbert has written a snide City piece about financial ‘gymnastics’ in the Mail which indicates all the weekend noise about legal letters and the media being pulled into line is a load of bollocks.
The thing about these articles that make me laugh is that they are written by a sports reporter with zero understanding of complex financial accounting methods and yet they still feel qualified to comment on them just like they do on football which they also have no understanding of, the level of ego it must take to write about things that you have no understanding of is incredible and the fact that the press let them do it is even more shameful, next it will be some dickhead of youtube presenting question time because vibes innit
 
Revenue then isn’t going to be as important to us like in times gone by , so basically we could drop £100m in revenue and it wouldn’t affect our spending on players whatsoever , United have been dogshit for 10 years , and their revenue has largely been unaffected , when they eventually get their act together (and they will ) its united that are really going to be affected more than anyone else, they do circa £600m of revenue even being the laughing stock that they are. If these new rules are to be brought in then it’s a very shortsighted set of rules that all “big” clubs should be very wary of. We as a club now can compete at the very highest level because of our growth on and off the pitch for the last 10 years plus. If these rules are to be brought in , then these rules have to set in stone for at least five years with no ability by the PL to change the “rules” to suit the clubs that want to ruin us. The rules in place as we speak have ruined clubs dreams. What they haven’t realised under all this is it’s what you do on the pitch that really matters, and not the ability to spend spend spend to keep up with nasty Manchester City.
But when they become good again they will change the rules again
 
The thing about these articles that make me laugh is that they are written by a sports reporter with zero understanding of complex financial accounting methods and yet they still feel qualified to comment on them just like they do on football which they also have no understanding of, the level of ego it must take to write about things that you have no understanding of is incredible and the fact that the press let them do it is even more shameful, next it will be some dickhead of youtube presenting question time because vibes innit
Whe you put it like that, it is actually preposterous. The ****’s certainly got some brass neck.
 
Very little of this very long ramble is correct. You should assume that top lawyers on both sides will conduct a quasi tribal based on thousands of disclosed documents, witnesses of fact and third party experts. Yes, things started with a hack but we are far beyond that now.

Of course, your opinion is your prerogative but others readers shouldn’t take much comfort from this type of post. The PL and its processes are absolutely not toothless - as we have seen and as we continue to see. From a civil perspective, the rules offer the PL initially and then an IC dangerously broad powers in fact. Again as we have seen. Worth you reading the FAQ.

PS your premise is wrong anyway. The PL briefed “115 CHARGES” so they have happily stated that word. Not that anything turns on it.
My posts are in response to your continued hyperbole which I've characterised because you've completely overlooked the following:

No police. No HMRC. No SFO. No accusation of fraud. Nothing. Why?

I'm aware of the disclosure process, yet some say we're facing non-cooperation charges which suggests no disclosure (whether timely or not). Go figure.

The PL are coming at us with essentially the same breaches UEFA did. CAS threw them out on appeal because of a lack of evidence. So where've the PL suddenly got this new damining evidence from, over & above what UEFA had?

As for the several legal terms issues "Charges" is the only one you found? I looked & all I could find was others referring to our breaches as charges not the PL. A link to where you found it would settle that one.

I'll leave you to explain to everyone what's taking HMRC so long to feel our collar, seeing as the Der Spiegel allegations were brought to their attention SIX years ago.

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'We're carrying out visits to every Premier League club and most Football League clubs, along with their players. We're currently making enquiries into 171 footballers, 44 football clubs and 31 agents for a range of issues, including image rights abuse.

Asked by if it would investigate Mancini's work for Al Jazira to establish it was legitimate, HMRC said it does not comment on 'identifiable taxpayers'.

'We are clear that everyone must pay their fair share of tax. The vast majority of taxpayers pay the right amount of tax on time, including those in the football industry.


However, HMRC is relentless in pursuing those who do not play by the rules. HMRC rigorously enforces the rules and has brought in £332million in extra tax by tackling non-compliance in the football industry.'

Many people are making capital, gaining clicks, viewers or becoming famous out of Manchester City fans' misery in respects to these breaches, & they need to stop it as it's terrifying the crap out of many of our faithful fans.

Again... No police. No HMRC. No SFO. No accusation of fraud. Nothing.

Let's start connecting the dots beginning with you explaining why, seeing as it's evident the details of Der Spiegel's claims have been brought to the attention of the authorities since at least November 2018?

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/f...relentless-pursuing-club-tried-dodge-tax.html
 
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