Chat GPT

Chippy_boy said:
i don't think people realise just how profound SORA is. If you look at the videos, it's easy to marvel at the quality of the videos, generated in response to simple Engish prompts. You look at the videos and say "Wow".

BUT... that is only half the story. In fact it's 1% of the story. What is truly mind-bending, shocking even, is that to do what it does, SORA has itself without instruction, figured out how physics works. It cannot render tiny ships floating in a cup of foaming coffee without understanding the motion of ships, without understanding that coffee is not like water and that it foams differently, without understanding depth of field to make the ships look small. It cannot create a video of a woman walking in Tokyo with understanding how fabric sways and moves, how her hangbag would swing.

It was not taught to understand these things. They just showed it lots of other videos and it's just figured it out. This is yet more, but this time much more compelling evidence, that these AI's we are creating, really do in some sense "think". The idea that e.g. GPT4 is just generating the next words in a sentence without understanding anything, is just wrong. These thinks are thinking already.
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Listening to a movie podcast and they are worried about this basically like all of PIXAR could be made redundant as it could easily do it, apparently the movie studios are having to find the best way to deal with it, lots of jobs could go. The only thing holding them back is the amount needed not enough chips can be produced at the moment for AI to kick in how they want,
 
SkyBlueFlux said:
The world has changed irreversibly again today with the reveal of GPT-4o.

Up until now, text-to-speech AIs weren't really good enough to convince you they were human. This omni-modal model however... well I'll let you judge for yourselves:





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Two points:

If it's real, it's overdone, imo. You want that sense of barrier to communicate rather than emote with... Or it just makes "Her" not such a dumb, unrealistic (not my opinion, but that's what was said on BM) film, after all.

And, I don't see the point in it. Unless the point is to augment reality with AI to become a 'companion', but one would lose connection to the real world, taking me back to my first point? Again, I'd refer to watching "Her" for this example.

However, it does make sex robots more of a sure thing...
 
Blue Maverick said:
Listening to a movie podcast and they are worried about this basically like all of PIXAR could be made redundant as it could easily do it, apparently the movie studios are having to find the best way to deal with it, lots of jobs could go. The only thing holding them back is the amount needed not enough chips can be produced at the moment for AI to kick in how they want,
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This is, partially, why there was a strike; to guarantee AI as non-inclusion into the big filming industry of Hollywood.

Pretty sure once other geeks/ art studios start making film without actors, the Hollywood moguls will fuck that deal right off!
 
Chippy_boy said:
i don't think people realise just how profound SORA is. If you look at the videos, it's easy to marvel at the quality of the videos, generated in response to simple Engish prompts. You look at the videos and say "Wow".

BUT... that is only half the story. In fact it's 1% of the story. What is truly mind-bending, shocking even, is that to do what it does, SORA has itself without instruction, figured out how physics works. It cannot render tiny ships floating in a cup of foaming coffee without understanding the motion of ships, without understanding that coffee is not like water and that it foams differently, without understanding depth of field to make the ships look small. It cannot create a video of a woman walking in Tokyo with understanding how fabric sways and moves, how her hangbag would swing.

It was not taught to understand these things. They just showed it lots of other videos and it's just figured it out. This is yet more, but this time much more compelling evidence, that these AI's we are creating, really do in some sense "think". The idea that e.g. GPT4 is just generating the next words in a sentence without understanding anything, is just wrong. These thinks are thinking already.
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Sora does not undertsand physics or how it works, but rather is refining the simulation of physics from various model sources to a higher standard.

Most maths is still beyond AI, although no doubt that'll be a problem solved in time, and when it is....boom, shit will get very real indeed.

www.technologyreview.com

Why does AI being good at math matter?

AI systems that can solve complex math could allow us to build more powerful AI tools.
www.technologyreview.com www.technologyreview.com

blog.vive.com

Sora Generative AI: Bridging AGI and Physics

Sora's Spark in the World Models Debate: Can AI Truly Understand Physics?
blog.vive.com blog.vive.com

analyticsindiamag.com

OpenAI Sora Ignites Physics Debate

OpenAI’s newest text-to-video generation model has invited scrutiny by rival big tech companies
analyticsindiamag.com analyticsindiamag.com

skimai.com

OpenAI’s Sora Advances in Simulating the ‘Physics’ of Movement Surpasses Other Text-to-Video Models - Skim AI

Discover the revolutionary impact of OpenAI's Sora on the video generation landscape, its advanced text-to-video capabilities, and the future of AI-driven visual storytelling.
skimai.com skimai.com
 
shemnel said:
Sora does not understand physics or how it works, but rather is refining the simulation of physics from various model sources to a higher standard.
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I think the word "understand" is not rich enough to cover what is going on inside an LLM's billions of connections and weightings.
 
bluejon said:
chatGPT is just being polite. chatJonPT thinks he's chatting bollocks
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Do you still thing so? (Achieving AGI in 2 to 3 years back then means we have another 15 months to go.) I'd say it's looking pretty likely, to be honest.
 
shemnel said:
Most maths is still beyond AI, although no doubt that'll be a problem solved in time, and when it is....boom, shit will get very real indeed.
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Boom! Have you seen what OpenAI's o3 model can do now? PhD level maths and beyond.

And take a look at some of these Veo2 text-to-video demos. We're at the point where they are often (but not always) indistinguishable from genuine video footage now.

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Hollywood as we know it, is over. The music industry, as we know it, is over.
 
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Chippy_boy said:
Boom! Have you seen what OpenAI's o3 model can do now? PhD level maths and beyond.

And take a look at some of these Veo2 text-to-video demos. We're at the point where they are often (but not always) indistinguishable from genuine video footage now.

youtube.com

Jerrod Lew

Creative project by Jerrod Lew focusing on using AI for storytelling, learning and content creation inspiration. This channel is a personal project.
youtube.com youtube.com

Hollywood as we know it, is over. The music industry, as we know it, is over.
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Thanks, I thought you might like the following articles.

The scores on fairly standard pre grad and above average tests have sky rocketed in the latter parts on 2024. The cost is huge, so I'm guessing we won't see mass rollout for some time.


www.exponentialview.co

Beyond human: OpenAI’s o3 wake up call

A reasoning breakthrough arrives months - not years - after its predecessor. Here's why we need to talk
www.exponentialview.co www.exponentialview.co

This is a good perspective from an established mathematician, and the comments provide insight too.

xenaproject.wordpress.com

Can AI do maths yet? Thoughts from a mathematician.

So the big news this week is that o3, OpenAI’s new language model, got 25% on FrontierMath. Let’s start by explaining what this means.
xenaproject.wordpress.com xenaproject.wordpress.com

It is still in the realms of number crunching to ascertain exact answers, and apparently making large strides against the blind FrontierMath database, an advanced mathematics dataset used for machine tests, scoring an impressive 25%. Further questions remain on what level those 25% answered are... (there is a range in the data).

I agree with the xena article that true and eye popping advance will come when proofs accompany hard answers, and the next standard will be human usable proofs, consistently to advanced theorems.
 
Chippy_boy said:
Hollywood as we know it, is over. The music industry, as we know it, is over.
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AI and a new tech revolution that will rival the Industrial Revolution in terms of its economic impact and put whole industries out of work.

Man, I wish someone could have predicted this 5-10 years ago.
 
I enjoy asking Chatgpt my random thoughts and daft scenarios. If I was on a long drive on my tod I'd like having some form of it in the car to chat shit to.
 
Scottyboi said:
I enjoy asking Chatgpt my random thoughts and daft scenarios. If I was on a long drive on my tod I'd like having some form of it in the car to chat shit to.
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Something I thought of years back is, given the numbers of smart devices in every home these days, I could imagine a scenario where the AI learns everything about you and your family over a period of decades. Then, in old age, the AI could impersonate a deceased spouse, so the surviving spouse would be able to chat to their loved one long after they had passed.

This might sound a bit weird - sick even? But there’s hundreds of thousands of sad and lonely old widows out there who sit at home all day, sometimes in complete silence, with no-one in the world to talk to. AI could be the source of great comfort for many, many people.
 
Damocles said:
AI and a new tech revolution that will rival the Industrial Revolution in terms of its economic impact and put whole industries out of work.

Man, I wish someone could have predicted this 5-10 years ago.
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I have to say, I predicted it in 1986. I had lots of thoughts back then about how this would all progress and it’s panned out pretty much as I expected. I only wish I had written books about it, as surely I’d be a millionaire by now,

The other theme I mused upon back then was our meddling with DNA, and creating synthetic DNA. I suspected we would initially just cut and paste sections of DNA so we could make changes to life forms without truly understanding how it all worked. For example take the bit of DNA linked to cell replication and aging from elephants and transplant it into humans so that we have humans who live to 150,

But in time we will figure it all out at a fundamental level, and be able to create our own synthetic DNA and life forms of any conceivable type/shape/purpose. We will become immortal and free of disease. We will have Replicants, walking the streets as in Blade Runner. These developments are IMO inevitable, and probably not that far off - a few decades at most, IMO. How the world will cope with seismic changes like this, God only knows.
 
Chippy_boy said:
Something I thought of years back is, given the numbers of smart devices in every home these days, I could imagine a scenario where the AI learns everything about you and your family over a period of decades. Then, in old age, the AI could impersonate a deceased spouse, so the surviving spouse would be able to chat to their loved one long after they had passed.

This might sound a bit weird - sick even? But there’s hundreds of thousands of sad and lonely old widows out there who sit at home all day, sometimes in complete silence, with no-one in the world to talk to. AI could be the source of great comfort for many, many people.
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Black mirror did something similar to this it's a good episode very weird but interesting.
 
Here's where AI-generated video has got to now. NONE of the clips are real, BTW. None of them.



Basically, Hollywood and TV production is dead. Dead in the water. Unless some legislation is brought in to prevent its use.

That said, is it right that some Hollywood star gets $20m for saying a few lines? That anyone who appears on Coronation Street gets to be a millionaire and live in a £5m mansion somewhere? Maybe if it brings that lot down a peg or two, could be no bad thing.
 
Chippy_boy said:
Here's where AI-generated video has got to now. NONE of the clips are real, BTW. None of them.



Basically, Hollywood and TV production is dead. Dead in the water. Unless some legislation is brought in to prevent its use.

That said, is it right that some Hollywood star gets $20m for saying a few lines? That anyone who appears on Coronation Street gets to be a millionaire and live in a £5m mansion somewhere? Maybe if it brings that lot down a peg or two, could be no bad thing.
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I think the deepfake issue is a major concern.

As for the industry I work in it’s making my job so much easier and more efficient.
 
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