The Labour Party

Really.... who would you vote for a corrupt welsh Labour party who have been at the helm for 25 years or more or a totally incompetent Tory government?

I find them both equally repugnant.

The last 14 years of Tory government in the UK might have had an influence on funding.

You find the Welsh labour party that feeds all primary school kids and pays for all students tuition as equally as repugnant as the Tories?

Madness.
 
Really.... who would you vote for a corrupt welsh Labour party who have been at the helm for 25 years or more or a totally incompetent Tory government?

I find them both equally repugnant.
Personally, I’d be going Lib Dem, Independent, Green or Monster Raving Loony Party before Reform, but you have your own mind to make up.

I’d be looking at which of those had the closest policies to my own values.

Reform getting in would destroy the country as none of their policies have been thought through nor costed, whilst just spewing hatred at all parts of the system. Maybe I’ve missed something about them though…
 
Sadly, the best way to make an impact in Wales will be to vote Reform. The best chance of getting Labour out. Believe me we have lived through a disastrous period which is as bad as if not worse than the UK Tory government.

How would Sunak look if he'd accepted a 200k loan from a Business that had been awarded numerous Government contracts and were in the process of bidding for more. Worse still they were in financial difficulties at the time and borrowed £400k from the Bank of Wales, funded by the tax payer, to give to the prospective first minister as a donation....
Agree, would never catch the Tories doing dodgy deals
 
The last 14 years of Tory government in the UK might have had an influence on funding.

You find the Welsh labour party that feeds all primary school kids and pays for all students tuition as equally as repugnant as the Tories?

Madness.
It’s a bigger version of the “Look how shit our Labour Council have been”.

I’m sure no council anywhere does things perfectly, but it’s nigh on impossible to keep people happy when their funding is decimated.
 
I doubt it.

That’s who you are voting for.

Besides, the Russian Fascist Party UK Branch manifesto is a hot mess. Tax cuts for everyone and more spending on everything. Using what? Unicorn money? Makes Liz Truss look like an economic giant.

You need a lesson in the real world and how it works.
 
Agree, would never catch the Tories doing dodgy deals
Don't disagree, they are equally as bad. But trst me. Labour will have this country in a shittier state than it is now.

Oh I can hear the excuses already "look at the poor state of the economy we inherited". The Tories (Cameron and Osborne) dined out on that one for at least five years. I am absolutely certain the Labour failures will usurp the Tory failures (but I still cannot vote Tory).
 
That’s who you are voting for.

Besides, the Russian Fascist Party UK Branch manifesto is a hot mess. Tax cuts for everyone and more spending on everything. Using what? Unicorn money? Makes Liz Truss look like an economic giant.

You need a lesson in the real world and how it works.
No.... Reform will not get into power but they may displace some welsh Labour MP's .... job done!

Tell me, how does the real world work then... your view of it of course.
 
Don't disagree, they are equally as bad. But trst me. Labour will have this country in a shittier state than it is now.

Oh I can hear the excuses already "look at the poor state of the economy we inherited". The Tories (Cameron and Osborne) dined out on that one for at least five years. I am absolutely certain the Labour failures will usurp the Tory failures (but I still cannot vote Tory.
same as it ever was
same as it ever was
same as it ever was
same as it ever was

rinse, repeat ad nauseam
 
Don't disagree, they are equally as bad. But trst me. Labour will have this country in a shittier state than it is now.

Oh I can hear the excuses already "look at the poor state of the economy we inherited". The Tories (Cameron and Osborne) dined out on that one for at least five years. I am absolutely certain the Labour failures will usurp the Tory failures (but I still cannot vote Tory.

This is post is probably a good example of why the Welsh Government should scrap Welsh language lessons and reallocate the hours freed up to the standard curriculum.
 
No.... Reform will not get into power but they may displace some welsh Labour MP's .... job done!

Tell me, how does the real world work then... your view of it of course.

You are voting for a party that preaches fantasy economics - just as the same characters did with Brexit. And it’s always about immigration. Brexit was about reducing immigration but Brexit increases immigration. And our public services - or what’s left of them - run on immigrant labour. We’ve been importing immigrant labour since forever and with an aging demographic and a labour shortage, the chancers aim of ‘net zero’ immigration is yet more fantasy. You want more doctors, dentists and teachers? Housing and hospitals built? Any idea where they, and the building labour are coming from? Think they’ll just magically appear overnight all white faced and shiny?

So don’t give me any shit about Labour not being able to run the country when you are voting for a fairy tale.
 
Don't disagree, they are equally as bad. But trst me. Labour will have this country in a shittier state than it is now.

Oh I can hear the excuses already "look at the poor state of the economy we inherited". The Tories (Cameron and Osborne) dined out on that one for at least five years. I am absolutely certain the Labour failures will usurp the Tory failures (but I still cannot vote Tory).
What's your evidence to suggest Labour will be worse?
 
You are voting for a party that preaches fantasy economics - just as the same characters did with Brexit. And it’s always about immigration. Brexit was about reducing immigration but Brexit increases immigration. And our public services - or what’s left of them - run on immigrant labour. We’ve been importing immigrant labour since forever and with an aging demographic and a labour shortage, the chancers aim of ‘net zero’ immigration is yet more fantasy. You want more doctors, dentists and teachers? Housing and hospitals built? Any idea where they, and the building labour are coming from? Think they’ll just magically appear overnight all white faced and shiny?

So don’t give me any shit about Labour not being able to run the country when you are voting for a fairy tale.
To be clear. My vote is about getting rid of the Labour MP's in Wales and I will vote for the candidate most likely to do that.

Labour has proven in Wales it cannot run an economy. Yes you can argue about central funding.

If there's no central funding then how the fuck can they justify increasing the Senedd by a further 36 Assembly members? Its all about getting their noses in the trough. An increase of 36 over and above the 60 that are already there.

It's beyond a fucking joke.

No money, cuts in all services all over the place yet an increase of over 55%... please explain.
 
What's your evidence to suggest Labour will be worse?
I repeat... just look at Wales. In power for over 25 years and the education standards are down, the hospital waiting lists are the longest, GP appointments are nigh on impossible to get. My council tax up by 11% this year with a Labour council.

To be honest I cannot tell you the Tories would be better than Labour by my living experience of Labour is shit and that is why I cannot bring myself to support either of them.

The only credit the Tories can claim is that they unashamedly rob the poor and don't deny it. Labour they just lie... just wait until Sir Keir takes office... you will soon realise he lied and he will blame it upon the state of the country he inherited.

Why can he just not answer a simple questions like..."what do you intend to do with the people on board the Bibi Stockholm and the other thousands waiting to be processed" or at least give his strategic view?
 
To be clear. My vote is about getting rid of the Labour MP's in Wales and I will vote for the candidate most likely to do that.

Labour has proven in Wales it cannot run an economy. Yes you can argue about central funding.

If there's no central funding then how the fuck can they justify increasing the Senedd by a further 36 Assembly members? Its all about getting their noses in the trough. An increase of 36 over and above the 60 that are already there.

It's beyond a fucking joke.

No money, cuts in all services all over the place yet an increase of over 55%... please explain.

I don’t. The issue of the Welsh Parliament and its proposed voting system change is for the people of Wales. If they don’t like it they can vote Labour out. If the new system is more representative as is claimed then there is a better chance of a new Parliament reflecting any disquiet.

Wales relies heavily on central funding. The ability of the Welsh Gov will depend on the performance of the UK Govt and the finance it provides. Again, if people are unhappy then the new PR voting system should reflect any displeasure.

No where in this does voting for illiterate economic garbage help matters.
 


Why can he just not answer a simple questions like..."what do you intend to do with the people on board the Bibi Stockholm and the other thousands waiting to be processed" or at least give his strategic view?

Put them into the work force. The health and care sectors need the personnel. Maybe you will get a GP appointment a bit quicker.
 
Put them into the work force. The health and care sectors need the personnel. Maybe you will get a GP appointment a bit quicker.

They all have Bibi Stockholm syndrome. They know Tories are bastards and make your life worse. It's unfortunate our friend in Wales still hasn't learnt this.
 
Be careful what you wish for.... Be very careful, 25 years of uninterrupted Labour rule and Wales is broken mess, education poor, longest NHS waiting lists, industry falling apart, corrupt first minister who has accepted corrupt donations, sacked a minister without an inquiry/investigation and deleted evidence around the COVID inquiry... Like I say, be careful what you wish for as according to KS Wales is the blueprint for the UKs future. https://www.facebook.com/share/v/7sAsr54T4ndrV1SU/
I’m not sure you can blame Labour 14 years of the Tories allocating funds from central government it can’t be helping very much, same as you my sister in Newport Wales is planning on voting Conservative because of the Labour Party. Recons they are all corrupt.
 

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