England v Slovenia - Tue 25th June, 20:00 | Euro 2024 Group C

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Betterdeedthan red said:
Telegraph ar saying move phil inside and drop lord Bellingham.
Even the press can see it
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That's because quality will show in the end. Phil had a poor first game for sure, but the last 2 games have shown if England want a chance at creating anything, then 8 times out of 10 it's gonna come through Phil, and that's when he's inside. I think anyone with a bit of common sense finally realised that last night if they didn't already know it.

Bellingham simply isn't creative enough to play as a 10. You might get away with it for Real Madrid in La Liga in the team he plays, but even then he went off the boil for the last few months of the season.

Sadly, Southgate thinks Bellingham is the messiah. He's not dropping him, he's too scared to even move him from that "10" position despite offering nothing. I think he would be far more effective doing more box to box stuff.

Southgate is too cowardly to move him, or too stupid not to see it. Either way, it disrupts the whole balance of the team. Drop him back a bit, put Phil inside, then you have a free space for a left winger. Then you have better balance and your most creative player in the most effective position. It's just logical.

Southgate is too much of a shithouse to move Bellingham and that'll be the reason England crash out without giving it a proper go.

I'm not even having a dig at Bellingham. You can't ask a player to do what they're not capable of doing, and for me he's not creative enough give England what they need from the position he's playing. It's on the manager to adjust that.
 
My first England match since the Last 16 victory over Denmark in Nigata at Japan/Korea2002

If I'm still alive in 2046, and somebody's got a spare ticket, then I'm not interested.

Football isn't coming home, but I am
 
Stelea said:
Am I missing something with the praise for Palmer.
He did as much as others and fluffed his shot at the end
Also the praise for Gordon was him running in field and not down the line. Dixon even took a win out of him running the ball out of play 1st touch he had.
Total mess all around
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Palmer barely did anything. Probably just people jaded with the first team's performance and desperate for someone new. As you said, that was only thing Gordon did and it was awful.
 
Stelea said:
Am I missing something with the praise for Palmer.
He did as much as others and fluffed his shot at the end
Also the praise for Gordon was him running in field and not down the line. Dixon even took a win out of him running the ball out of play 1st touch he had.
Total mess all around
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Gordon only went down the line that once and ran the ball into the advertising board haha.

Palmer did look positive in the sense he actually gets his head up and looks to move things goalwards. Fair enough not much actually came off but the intent was better than most on the pitch were offering.

I'd start Palmer over Saka. Saka looks a bit knackered to me.
 
adrianr said:
I'm not sure ykno. Pep can obviously elevate club football to ridiculous levels when given time, but he also clearly has a deep and almost spiritual intuition for football itself. You know he's sat there watching England with at least 10 solutions to the various problems he's seeing, and he'd have 10 more after one training session with the squad. Every single one of which would be better than what 99% of other coaches would come up with.
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He would. So would the manager of Austria and the manager of Switzerland. They have got their players organised and knowing what they are doing ie tactics and playing as a team. Something that we seem to be lacking of. You can see our players are frustrated with the lack of all these fundamental, basic things on a football pitch and I’m just an England supporter who wants them to win convincingly.
 
Akira said:
Genuinely, would you have Southgate at West Ham over Moyes or Lopetegui?
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I never wanted Moyes to go and ideally would have kept him.

would of been happy with Southgate to come in after - think he would actually be a good fit for us.
 
01cravend said:
Kanes such a boring, happy clapping media trained ****... say you were shit and need to be better.
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Thank *uck for Daniel Levy, the thought of ary at our club makes me....

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feedmpenzaandhewillscore said:
Trippier at left back doesn’t work offensively, he never once overlapped Foden to make space for him and instead took a touch and passed it inside to him closing all the space he had. Phil did well to create what he did with that going on.
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The same trippier that’s had a terrible season for Newcastle at right back, was responsible for so many goals conceded with bad mistakes and then was injured for long spells.

Remember at the last tournament when Southgate singled out Phil as being unable to play centrally as that’s not where he plays for his club. Well, now the team is littered with players who play in positions they don’t play for their clubs and Phil who has spent the best season of his career central is still stuck out in no man’s land.
 
I genuinely don't know what Southgate's doing with them in training. Their fitness doesn't look great and their tactics look non-existent.

One of the pundits last night (I think it might have been Neville) got it right when he said there's no established patterns of play, everyone is receiving the ball then having to decide what to do with it, rather than being in a rhythm where they know where everyone else is expected to be and what their options are before they get the ball.

Any excuse you can think of for this - the players have had a long season and are exhausted, the manager doesn't get to work with the players very often - can also be applied to all the other teams, but many of them are managing much better.

Take Austria yesterday. With all due respect to them, they don't have quite the same level of quality throughout the team as the Netherlands (or we) do. But they have a very clear plan, identity, way of playing, and that led to an exciting match that they won to lead the group, and they'll be going into the round of 16 on a high, with a feeling of momentum and togetherness.

Togetherness is one of the few positive things Southgate has brought to the England set-up, and that seems to be running dry of late.
 
Same old shite just a different games.
Only good news is nobody else is pulling up trees and Germany haven't been tested yet. So it's there to win if we're capable of winning at penalties.
 
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