President Trump

[Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese]

Exactly! It's just a cold. He could have just said no debates. And take care of the cold.


The stammer isn't even that bad. Trump is clearly the one in 'REAL' mental decline. Biden's team really need to get him a speech therapist. Just a little caork and he'll sound as sharp as he really is.

They are both in real mental and physical decline, as the vast majority of us will be at that age. If biden does have some sort of Alzheimer's or whatever it doesn't mean he's stupid, just old/unwell and there is no shame in that.
What is a shame is that this potentially gives trump a fighting chance of being president.

 

[Bigga]

Trump has spoken about Biden being the “worst US president in history”, oh the irony.

Is that said with a Caucasian purview?

Don't think you'd be saying that as part of a Muslim or Black society.

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

Is that said with a Caucasian purview?

Don't think you'd be saying that as part of a Muslim or Black society.

I imagine, from a black perspective, the slave owning Presidents were probably the worst.

 

[Pedestrian]

Slam dunk for the fat **** now. If it pushes us closer to Europe and makes Europe commit to its own defence without relying on the US then it might be a positive thing. Shame for the US but they get what they vote for.

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

Slam dunk for the fat **** now. If it pushes us closer to Europe and makes Europe commit to its own defence without relying on the US then it might be a positive thing. Shame for the US but they get what they vote for.

I think that trajectory would accelerate our return to the EU. Our best card to obviate vetos being deployed to block our reentry is our relative military strength.

 

[Pedestrian]

I think that trajectory would accelerate our return to the EU. Our best card to obviate vetos being deployed to block our reentry is our relative military strength.

The other side of that coin is how the liberals in the US would deal with a more isolationist political culture. There could be trouble.

I’m confident if the right wing element of Europe are again chased back to the lanes then Europe could progress much more effectively without US interference.

 

[KS55]

They are both in real mental and physical decline, as the vast majority of us will be at that age. If biden does have some sort of Alzheimer's or whatever it doesn't mean he's stupid, just old/unwell and there is no shame in that.
What is a shame is that this potentially gives trump a fighting chance of being president.

Oi! I’m almost the same age as Trump. Not in mental decline at all, thank you. Physically is a different matter! Sharpest wordsmith on here is @Eccles Blue and she ain’t no youngster. Sorry, Eccles, but these young whippersnappers need to be pulled up sometimes.

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

The other side of that coin is how the liberals in the US would deal with a more isolationist political culture. There could be trouble.

I’m confident if the right wing element of Europe are again chased back to the lanes then Europe could progress much more effectively without US interference.

I think whoever wins in November the US is heading for serious civil unrest. I think the country is likely to break apart in the long run.

 

[KS55]

I think whoever wins in November the US is heading for serious civil unrest. I think the country is likely to break apart in the long run.

I think that is going too far, but things are far from normal in the US. A long fight will ensue: SCOTUS and voting reform urgently needed.

 

[Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese]

Oi! I’m almost the same age as Trump. Not in mental decline at all, thank you. Physically is a different matter! Sharpest wordsmith on here is @Eccles Blue and she ain’t no youngster. Sorry, Eccles, but these young whippersnappers need to be pulled up sometimes.

I did say the majority, not all.

 

[KS55]

I did say the majority, not all.

Just teasing!

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

I think that is going too far

Which part?

 

[Bigga]

I imagine, from a black perspective, the slave owning Presidents were probably the worst.

They are no longer alive.

Of course we're talking under current living standards of treatment and equality.

 

[KS55]

Which part?

The US breaking apart.
It will be a big effort to hold it together but there are many committed to the fight.

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

They are no longer alive.

Of course we're talking under current living standards of treatment and equality.

That’s your predication, not that of Trump, who said ‘worst President in history’ which plainly includes all the dead ones.

In fact, you didn’t even frame it that way in your first post on the subject, so how was anyone supposed to realise that’s what you meant?

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

The US breaking apart.
It will be a big effort to hold it together but there are many committed to the fight.

Actually started a thread on this very topic eight years ago:

Will the United States survive the 21st century?

A question that might have been laughed at a generation ago, but the world has changed so much in that time and will continue to, for better or worse. With all the global change we've seen in recent years, I would suggest it's not a fanciful notion. There's no doubt that the United States are...

forums.bluemoon-mcfc.co.uk

And the situation has unquestionably got far worse since. Not saying it will definitely happen, but I think it’s likely and becoming increasingly so.

 

[Delboy352]

Coming to a Mount Rushmore near you - and yes, he has put forward the idea!!

 

[JASR]

Of the 5 rankings (by presidential scholars) since Trump orchestrated Jan 6th - he’s in the bottom 4 (out of 44/45) in every one.
He ranks in the bottom 5 of presidents for even Republican voting scholars (ie the individual breakdown of the overall ranking).
Even James Buchanan ranks higher in some of the rankings.

Biden is upper middle in the 2 rankings since he became president.

Historical rankings of presidents of the United States - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

But yeah, Biden is ‘the worst’ and Trump ‘the greatest’…

 

[Mancity1980]

Of the 5 rankings (by presidential scholars) since Trump orchestrated Jan 6th - he’s in the bottom 4 (out of 44/45) in every one.
He ranks in the bottom 5 of presidents for even Republican voting scholars (ie the individual breakdown of the overall ranking).
Even James Buchanan ranks higher in some of the rankings.

Biden is upper middle in the 2 rankings since he became president.

Historical rankings of presidents of the United States - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

But yeah, Biden is ‘the worst’ and Trump ‘the greatest’…

What Americans need to recognise is their government is a massive machine and the president is its figurehead and it is better to have an old figurehead that allows the machine to work than a disruptive loudmouth who breaks it up. I don’t know about any other posters out there but I find the US election much more interesting and engaging than the UK one.

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

What Americans need to recognise is their government is a massive machine and the president is its figurehead and it is better to have an old figurehead that allows the machine to work than a disruptive loudmouth who breaks it up. I don’t know about any other posters out there but I found the US election much more interesting and engaging than the UK one.

Not just Americans. All nations need to remember this.