Media Discussion - 2023/24

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Xhavenjoe said:
Happened with the Lakers.
Can't see it ever happening in England.
The nearest to this was the Wimbledon situation
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Yeah fortunately we don't have teams franchised by the league but rather clubs that are members.

The MK Dons thing was insane for English football. Never thought that would happen to an English team.
 
jamielowndes said:
I think the NFL splits ticket revenue 60/40 home/away.

But yeah, merchandise money is all divided equally (all league gear is contracted to Nike and Fanatics so it's a central contract with the league instead of individual teams wearing different brands)

As a standalone league, the financial side of it is really well put together. However, part of that is because each team operates as a franchise of the league instead of as an individual club. And teams can be moved by ownership to another city if they feel necessary.

There are things English football could definitely borrow though financially. Something to ensure a little more parity wouldn't hurt.
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Surely the fact there is a closed shop with no relegation enables some of these things
 
jamielowndes said:
It's fucking mad.

I mean, there are some teams that would just NEVER be moved that have multiple decades of heritage (if someone tried to move the Chicago Bears, hell would break loose), but owners have held teams for ransom trying to get taxpayer money to fund a new stadium.

Because they're franchises belonging to the league, it's just an accepted part of it. Imagine being a St Louis Rams fan, in St Louis, Missouri when you find out the owner has decided to move your team to Los Angeles.
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NY Dodgers and Giants now NLW of the MLB, thank you Mets for saving the city from the dark side ;-)
 
jamielowndes said:
It's fucking mad.

I mean, there are some teams that would just NEVER be moved that have multiple decades of heritage (if someone tried to move the Chicago Bears, hell would break loose), but owners have held teams for ransom trying to get taxpayer money to fund a new stadium.

Because they're franchises belonging to the league, it's just an accepted part of it. Imagine being a St Louis Rams fan, in St Louis, Missouri when you find out the owner has decided to move your team to Los Angeles.
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One of the few bits of knowledge regarding American Football that I have in my (admittedly underused!) brain is that The Rams originated in Cleveland, then moved to LA, then to St Louis and finally back to LA again. Apparently, this makes them the only team to have won the big championship prizes (is it 'The Supper Bowl' thingy, or whatever it's called..?!) for three cities.

As you say, it's 'mad'.

And as for bringing in that kind of thinking into our historic game (both here and in Europe), well all I'd say to the Americans, with their 'no relegation while siphoning off club profits' franchise mentality, is simply this:

'You can get to fuck with that for a game of soldiers..'
 
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johnevans said:
One of the few bits of knowledge regarding American Football that I have in my (admittedly underused!) brain is that The Rams originated in Cleveland, then moved to LA, then to St Louis and finally back to LA again. Apparently, this makes them the only team to have won the big championship prizes (is it 'The Supper Bowl' thingy, or whatever it's called..?!)

As you say, it's 'mad'.

And as for bringing in that kind of thinking into our historic game (both here and in Europe), well all I'd say to the Americans, with their 'no relegation while siphoning off club profits' franchise mentality, is simply this:

'You can get to fuck with that for a game of soldiers..'
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The Raiders started out in Oakland, relocated to LA, then relocated back to Oakland before moving to Las Vegas. The Cardinals started in Chicago (under another name), relocated to St Louis and then moved to Arizona. The Colts started in Baltimore and relocated to Indianapolis. The Houston Oilers became the Tennessee Titans following relocation to Nashville. The Chargers had their first season in LA before relocating to San Diego and then back to LA.
 
laserblue said:
The Raiders started out in Oakland, relocated to LA, then relocated back to Oakland before moving to Las Vegas. The Cardinals started in Chicago (under another name), relocated to St Louis and then moved to Arizona. The Colts started in Baltimore and relocated to Indianapolis. The Houston Oilers became the Tennessee Titans following relocation to Nashville. The Chargers had their first season in LA before relocating to San Diego and then back to LA.
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johnevans said:
One of the few bits of knowledge regarding American Football that I have in my (admittedly underused!) brain is that The Rams originated in Cleveland, then moved to LA, then to St Louis and finally back to LA again. Apparently, this makes them the only team to have won the big championship prizes (is it 'The Supper Bowl' thingy, or whatever it's called..?!)

As you say, it's 'mad'.

And as for bringing in that kind of thinking into our historic game (both here and in Europe), well all I'd say to the Americans, with their 'no relegation while siphoning off club profits' franchise mentality, is simply this:

'You can get to fuck with that for a game of soldiers..'
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Exactly. And this is why I will always maintain Americans are worse for the game than owners from anywhere else.

They will bleed the game dry with every ounce of their strength. US sports tickets have priced out the average fan and games are now just basically opportunities for rich people and celebrities to be seen on TV cameras.

Look at Inter Miami. They had a dedicated fanbase that watched their ticket prices skyrocket once the league and Apple brought in you know who for them.
 
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