jimharri
Moderator
You're perfectly entitled to your opinion. Some on here might say the same about your original post.
You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly.
You should upgrade or use an alternative browser.
You should upgrade or use an alternative browser.
Rico Lewis and Oscar bobb
- Thread starter butlerkb
- Start date
BringBackSwales
Well-Known Member
- Joined
- 3 Jul 2009
- Messages
- 37,279
How long was that stoppage? Wonder how much he adds on
ChicagoBlue
Well-Known Member
- Joined
- 10 Jan 2009
- Messages
- 21,893
And yet many agree…go figure.You're perfectly entitled to your opinion. Some on here might say the same about your original post.
I try not to wear my blue-tinted specs.
BringBackSwales
Well-Known Member
- Joined
- 3 Jul 2009
- Messages
- 37,279
Looking at the ball recovery stats on UEFA Bellingham hasn’t recovered a single fucking one
jamielowndes
Well-Known Member
- Joined
- 15 Jan 2010
- Messages
- 2,846
I completely agree.
City isn’t, or hasn’t been, the place to cultivate youngsters in the first XI, with one glaring exception, whom Pep rates Messi-esque talent wise.
Tbf very few elite UCL contender teams are. You don't really have that luxury when you're chasing a title or a UCL every season. You need players now. So you let other teams do the work and pay them for it.
And Foden was introduced to the starting setup in 17/18. It took him until 2022 to really crack the line-up in a consistent way. So even for our biggest youth product, Pep really made him wait for it.
ChicagoBlue
Well-Known Member
- Joined
- 10 Jan 2009
- Messages
- 21,893
Errr, is he Bobb-like or Lewis-like, and do you think he has a future at City?Looking at the ball recovery stats on UEFA Bellingham hasn’t recovered a single fucking one
;-)
Agreed, and having just watched Walker’s performance for England I think it’s time to let Rico play the right back role, stepping into midfield moving forwards.I think Rico at right back improves us.
manimanc
Well-Known Member
Bookmarked.I predict NEITHER will be here in 24 months.
Vienna_70
Well-Known Member
- Joined
- 18 Jun 2009
- Messages
- 45,254
- Location
- 100, 32, 106, +79, 19
- Team supported
- Treble Winners 2022/23.
I can recall Pep saying that Rico has everything except experience.Im torn on Rico. Pep seemed to love him and played him quite frequently but then towards the back end of the season he didn’t have a sniff. I personally think he is a bit slow in the recovery when we lose the ball. Bobb looked good in some games but quite poor in some too so the jury is out on him. I agree he needs more game time.
I'm With Stupid
Well-Known Member
- Joined
- 6 May 2013
- Messages
- 23,213
But we all know that's not really true, he's just praising a youngster who's done well. There's a noticeable drop off when he plays right back instead of Walker against anyone decent. He needs to improve his strength and hold-up play, because opposition attackers target him for pressing. But he's definitely got the talent to become good enough.I can recall Pep saying that Rico has everything except experience.
The reality is though that 99% of youth players will never make it, and of the 1% that do, 90% will never become good enough to regularly command a starting position. So it's actually a fairly safe bet with any youth player to say that they probably won't be playing for us in a few years. What we're basically asking is whether Lewis and Bobb are going to become amongst the best in the world in their position, because that's the only way they get to play for us. The other possibility is that they are happy to spend their career as a squad player, like Zinchenko was for a while, in which case, they will stay for a while. For the record, I think Bobb looks properly good, and Lewis looks like he could easily have a future as a utility player, if not a regular starter (but you never know).
Having said that, one of the main issues nowadays is that FFP incentivises teams to sell their youth players rather than keep them. Which kinda sums up how stupid the whole system is.
Gingers Dad
Well-Known Member
- Joined
- 8 Mar 2011
- Messages
- 8,138
Walker is definitely nearing the end of his career. But I think it is unfair to judge any England player's performance at this tournament.Agreed, and having just watched Walker’s performance for England I think it’s time to let Rico play the right back role, stepping into midfield moving forwards.
I agree, it was a frustrated comment, nobody can perform under this manager. I’m basing it off what I saw last season with him as well. I’d love him to stay if he’d accept a reduced role, but in my opinion the time is now for Lewis to step up.Walker is definitely nearing the end of his career. But I think it is unfair to judge any England player's performance at this tournament.
mrbelfry
Well-Known Member
I rate Rico. His movement and positioning without the ball is excellent and he's a tough little player. But not sure he will ever cement a place in the squad. I expect next season he'll start the champions league group games, disappear for a bit, play a couple of games in the winter and then disappear for a bit. He's everything people are claiming Mainoo is but he has no obvious place in this team
Tugay One Cup
Well-Known Member
Walker is definitely nearing the end of his career. But I think it is unfair to judge any England player's performance at this tournament.
Last season was the worst Walker has had for City.
Gingers Dad
Well-Known Member
- Joined
- 8 Mar 2011
- Messages
- 8,138
I thought that too. Although he played his part there was quite a few times I wondered whether Pep had done the right thing persuading Walker to stay. Best and obviously most successful RB I've seen at City but everything comes to an end at some point.Last season was the worst Walker has had for City.
jimharri
Moderator
It's a bold prediction, that's for sure. I guess time will tell.Bookmarked.
Scaring Europe to Death
Well-Known Member
- Joined
- 31 Oct 2014
- Messages
- 5,230
Walker's been a fantastic player at City, but he's starting to look 34 and without being too critical, I would suggest that he's probably appeared at one tournament too many.
It would be great if he accepted a lesser role, as Rico seamlessly acquired more minutes in a successful team, but history tells us that it won't be that smooth.
Slightly different with Bobb as he looks a genuine quality prospect. He just needs more games, either as a late substitute in the PL or as a starter in the cup competitions
It would be great if he accepted a lesser role, as Rico seamlessly acquired more minutes in a successful team, but history tells us that it won't be that smooth.
Slightly different with Bobb as he looks a genuine quality prospect. He just needs more games, either as a late substitute in the PL or as a starter in the cup competitions
BlueMoonRisin’
Well-Known Member
I agree, it's up to them to prove themselves. Although Palmer is ripping up trees at Chelsea he didn't prove himself enough here, and that's why he was allowed to leave.Let's see. I'm pretty sure similar comments were being made about Foden back in around 2018. Bottom line; if they prove themselves to be good enough, they'll still be here.
The Palmer one is a little odd.I agree, it's up to them to prove themselves. Although Palmer is ripping up trees at Chelsea he didn't prove himself enough here, and that's why he was allowed to leave.
He didn't ask to leave, he asked for more game time and asked to go on loan if that was the way he would get more time.
He was refused the loan option and given a choice , stay with the club or be sold.
Not sure why the loan option wasn't available to him as we had several players on loan last season.
The Chelsea offer has worked out well in the end for Palmer.
stonerblue
Well-Known Member
Pep gave Lewis a shiny new contract last season up until 2008And yet many agree…go figure.
I try not to wear my blue-tinted specs.