Spain v England - Sun 14th July, 20:00 | Euro 2024 Final

[Lovebitesandeveryfing]

I think your perception is influenced because of Rodri scored the most important goal in City history.

Er… I'm just going to step in here, because the Rodri/Busquets argument in itself doesn't interest me: the most important goal in City's history was certainly Paul Dickov's. Rodri's (I'm presuming you're referring to the Champions League final?) does not even come close. It was cherry on top of the cake stuff. A delicious cherry, no doubt about it. Dickov's was about saving the cake. Which would otherwise have been burnt to a cinder.
A lot of people on here would consider that Sergio's on 13 May 2012 was more important than Rodri's. Some would even consider it to be the most important goal in City's history. I personally would not. But some would. Rodri's comes a distant third for anybody who knows City's history.

 

[Johnny Mars Bar]

He just wants to be loved

 

[ChicagoBlue]

Also re Rodri, might be a good chance he starts angling for a move to Real Madrid based on this - you may need to do auto translate on Google

Carvajal: "Le digo a Rodri todos los días que fiche por el Madrid, que le necesitamos"

El lateral habla de una posible llegada del centrocampista del Manchester City

www.marca.com

Rodri has 3 years left on his contract, and will be 31 by then.

Marca and AS are shithouse publications that LITERALLY work on behalf of their clubs to tap up the worlds best talent in an attempt to lower prices or get them for free. They’re a disgrace, much like the administration of Spanish football on the whole.

 

[Lovebitesandeveryfing]

He just wants to be loved

The Netherlands did back to back World Cup finals. The only thing that people remember is that the Netherlands have never won the World Cup.
Let's see if he wins it. He may. He just may.

 

[Johnny Mars Bar]

The Netherlands did back to back World Cup finals. The only thing that people remember is that the Netherlands have never won the World Cup.
Let's see if he wins it. He may. He just may.

It’s c……..

 

[Lovebitesandeveryfing]

It’s c……..

Don't! Please don't!

 

[bridgeno1]

Isn't that the Spanish version of the Metro though?

Marca is a leading Spanish sports publication but is very biased towards Real Madrid. It's the Spanish equivalent of Gazzetta Dello Sport or l'Equipe.

Looking at comments on there what is odd is that quite a few Real Madrid fans want England to win so Bellingham can get the Ballon D'Or (and they really don't want the Barca players to do well). Seems a lot more tribal there than the rivalries in the UK - obviously there's a political angle to it in Spain.

 

[ChicagoBlue]

Come on guys Rhodri isn't that good. Mainoo is better than Rhodri. Just ask the BBC.View attachment 125050

Another example of why we play the game and don’t rely on stats to pick winners and losers.

And, that’s not to say Mainoo isn’t an excellent young player (with a first touch like Edin Dzeko!), but he’s no Rodri! That’s just silly talk.

 

[Johnny Mars Bar]

Don't! Please don't!

C……..ertainly going to be a win for Spain

 

[ChicagoBlue]

He just wants to be loved

I can only say that his record, and demeanor, are admirable.

 

[Lovebitesandeveryfing]

C……..ertainly going to be a win for Spain

haha, you had me!

 

[mexico1970]

Marca is a leading Spanish sports publication but is very biased towards Real Madrid. It's the Spanish equivalent of Gazzetta Dello Sport or l'Equipe.

Looking at comments on there what is odd is that quite a few Real Madrid fans want England to win so Bellingham can get the Ballon D'Or (and they really don't want the Barca players to do well). Seems a lot more tribal there than the rivalries in the UK - obviously there's a political angle to it in Spain.

Football is mad, that's why I like it because it's male gossip :)

And SOME females naturally (I don't want lynching)

 

[Bournemouth Blue]

I think Spain are strong favourites, but remember France were rubbish going forward throughout the tournament and Spain only beat them 2-1. If we can play like we did in the first half and convert chances, who knows?

 

[jamesha]

I think England have a good chance of winning this as Spain lack decent strikers and may struggle to convert chances. Ferran Torres would not be anywhere near the England squad if he was English.
If Spain do win it will be because of their talent in midfield.

 

[mexico1970]

I think Spain are strong favourites, but remember France were rubbish going forward throughout the tournament and Spain only beat them 2-1. If we can play like we did in the first half and convert chances, who knows?

It's really really thin though, it's that thin it's pretty much 50-50 although granted the Spanish haven't got the Kane/Bellingham love in which gives England less of a chance.

 

[dickie davies]

meat pie
sausage roll
come on Luke Shaw
and get us a goal

 

[lightning Rodri]

 

[RACHACE]

I've no idea how this game is going to go. We've been extremely fortunate to get to this stage but a final is usually a bit of a coin flip of a game and we have more than a good chance to win this game.

Spain are good but not amazing and the bookies had them at 8/1 pre tournament (5th favourite).

One thing is for sure. We're going to see all the dickhead antics of Dani Carvajal all over again like we did in our Champions league quarter final.

 

[SebastianBlue]

I think your perception is influenced because of Rodri scored the most important goal in City history.

Rodri did not score the most important goal in City history.

He scored one of the most important goals in our history.

And I have spent my entire life watching English and Spanish football, and I would say Rodri is as good as Busquets was in his prime, if not actually slightly better.

Has Rodri achieved the same level of success as Busquets thus far? Not quite.

But Rodri has only just turned 28, and his game has never been based on pace, so he could play at this level for another 5 years (or more, the way he takes care of himself), giving him another crack at both the WC and Euros, as well as many more club trophies.

And, if the voters could get their heads out of their arses, a Ballon d’Or.

 

[bridgeno1]

Foden and Saka will be key to England. If Spain have any sense they'll have observed how Saka tormented Cucurella when Arsenal spanked Chelsea 5-0 a couple of months ago. It was more Bukkake Saka than Bukayo Saka.

So Spain either double up on Saka from the start, meaning Foden gets more space, or they don't double up on him, Saka murders Cucurella again and Spain double up on him mid-match and Foden gets space.

I'd like to see Foden play passes quicker and take shots faster - just take a crack at goal, he's got form for scoring screamers.

Obviously Spain have Rodri who is a fearsome opponent, but Rodri won't have a fellow midfield enforcer in the Spain team unlike at City where they put Kovacic in alongside Rodri for the tougher matches. And Mainoo essentially ended the 'Rodri myth' by scoring the goal that ended Rodri's long unbeaten run in a City shirt.

It's a 50/50 game for me.