President Trump

PPT said:
They are not necessarily Trump supporters. Just people who find it hard to accept that some people want someone else murdered in cold blood just because they disagree with what they say. What is frightening, and also very sad, is the number of anti-Trump supporters on here who wish he was dead today with his family grieving.
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I'm fairly sure Melania will be gutted tbh.
 
dave_blue12 said:
Which is precisely why many are suspicious.

Secret Service do not behave in this way. But if they had acted as expected then Trump would not have got the ‘iconic’ picture currently doing the rounds.

It’s curious for sure.
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Looking at the wound and entry position how the hell has it not gone through his skull? His ear is flat to his head, he doesn't have Charlie type jug ears
 
Lost me at the second fist pump. An Assassination attempt and there's still time for all the theatrics?
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Txiki Txiki Bang Bang said:
Lost me at the second fist pump. An Assassination attempt and there's still time for all the theatrics?
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It was an utterly bizarre response. Who exactly was he telling them to fight? The corpse on the roof?

Although odds on that he was off his noodle. People say and do weird things when they are off their tits.
 
Dax777 said:
Am I the only one who found the Secret Service's reactions totally incompetent?

I am finding it hard to believe what I saw. When an attempt has been made on a President's life the SS agents should immediately take over with extreme force and consider everything and everyone a threat.

Trump should never have been allowed to stand up, ask for his shoes, or fist pump.

They should have covered him up, and literally rag dolled him to the car. Even against his will.

Often in these situations, the asset is often the greatest impediment to his own safety.

They looked incompetent. The mike on stage should have been cut off , and we should have never seen Trump's face from the second he was shot at till the end.

Dude kept sticking his head out at every possible turn. On stage, being led down the stairs, at the car.... What the fuck?

Anyway, glad he is alive. But jobs should be lost on that detail.
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It's because the Secret Service employs women, apparently. Woke etc etc.

 
frothy said:
99.9% of people who are on Blue Moon can't vote in the American elections, so what does it matter, give it rest FFS, everyone is entitled to their own beliefs whether you like it or not
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Where did I say people aren’t entitled to their own beliefs. You just don’t like it when people think your beliefs are fucking warped. As for whether people can vote in the US election, what’s that got to do with anything? If only people who can vote there can have an opinion the thread might as well be deleted.
 
gordondaviesmoustache said:
Whatever people might think about Trump, and personally I think the world would be a discernibly better and safer place without him, anyone thinking his assassination would have done anything other than to make matters even worse and divided in the US is wrong. And there would also almost certainly be severe consequences for the wider world following that.

History has shown us previously that political assassinations can unleash forces that cannot be contained or predicted.
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This isn't a loaded question because I'm genuinely interested but do you not think those severe consequences are going to be in effect once that shot is taken, regardless of whether or not the attempt is successful?
 
Blue and true said:
See the issue here is you believing Putin, and by extension Russia, are amenable to the effects of diplomacy. We're talking about a terrorist state that has now inflicted suffering and claimed the lives of hundreds of thousands of people. We're talking about a gangster that rigs elections and kills political opponents that are a threat to his demagoguery. He poisons expats on other nations soil; remember Litvinenko? Just last week a children's hospital was bombed on the orders of this ****; do these people deserve diplomacy, or do they forfeit the right to diplomacy? Putin is a Peter the Great obsessive who wants a return to a soviet empire, he wants all Slavic peoples and their sovereign nations under a Russian umbrella.

When the wall fell, Russia was on course to be democratised and embraced by the West. Putin has eroded all that goodwill with his insecurity and Russia has subsequently regressed to it's hitherto pariah state. I highly recommend a book called The New Tsar, it details just how gravely Russia has regressed as a nation over the last twenty years: the sole reason is Putin.
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If they do negotiate a settlement and have to give up land (I hope not), they should invite any one from those areas to come in live in the rest of Ukraine, whilst simultaneously joining NATO. Fuck Putin and Russia.
 
gordondaviesmoustache said:
Whatever people might think about Trump, and personally I think the world would be a discernibly better and safer place without him, anyone thinking his assassination would have done anything other than to make matters even worse and divided in the US is wrong. And there would also almost certainly be severe consequences for the wider world following that.

History has shown us previously that political assassinations can unleash forces that cannot be contained or predicted.
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Politics has become utterly toxic and you have to worry for democracy. Whatever happened to just debating and then adding up the votes?
 
Tugay One Cup said:
This isn't a loaded question because I'm genuinely interested but do you not think those severe consequences are going to be in effect once that shot is taken, regardless of whether or not the attempt is successful?
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I think the fact it wasn’t fatal means the aftermath is easier to predict and control.
 
gordondaviesmoustache said:
Whatever people might think about Trump, and personally I think the world would be a discernibly better and safer place without him, anyone thinking his assassination would have done anything other than to make matters even worse and divided in the US is wrong. And there would also almost certainly be severe consequences for the wider world following that.

History has shown us previously that political assassinations can unleash forces that cannot be contained or predicted.
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I agree. Imagine the chaos it would have caused. I’d imagine there would be a huge increase in violence and people basically out for revenge. It would also mean politicians scared of speaking in public.

Posters on here saying it would be better if he was assassinated are living in another reality.
 
Palerider said:
Politics has become utterly toxic and you have to worry for democracy. Whatever happened to just debating and then adding up the votes?
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The cornerstone of democracy is tolerance for other peoples views and opinions. Sadly it seems like the number of people completely lacking this is growing significantly (on both sides of the scale to be fair).
 
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