47 | Phil Foden - 2023/24

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Tim of the Oak said:
Not if Phil hadn’t strayed offside with an open goal tap in.

Phil is brilliant for us but he’s had a stinker of a tournament. That’s just the facts
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He was ineffective in the main due to playing in an area where he wasn’t involved enough and when he made himself available for the ball in several good positions it wasn’t forthcoming.
He had as many ‘flashes’ of brilliance as anybody in the team and his first half against Holland was probably the pick of the tournament as far as an England player goes.

A stinker is the kind of shite I’d expect to see coming from the dickheads on TS or the Daily mail.
 
Phil1 said:
He was ineffective in the main due to playing in an area where he wasn’t involved enough and when he made himself available for the ball in several good positions it wasn’t forthcoming.
He had as many ‘flashes’ of brilliance as anybody in the team and his first half against Holland was probably the pick of the tournament as far as an England player goes.

A stinker is the kind of shite I’d expect to see coming from the dickheads on TS or the Daily mail.
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If you can’t be honest then don’t respond. Phil has had a poor tournament. Great player but it wasn’t his time. Partly that was down to the position he played in most of games and partly that was due to a loss of form.
 
Tim of the Oak said:
If you can’t be honest then don’t respond. Phil has had a poor tournament. Great player but it wasn’t his time. Partly that was down to the position he played in most of games and partly that was due to a loss of form.
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I don’t think he had a stinker by any stretch. That’s me being honest. You thinking I’m not being honest is on you by using terms such as ‘stinker’ and expecting others to agree with it.

He was disappointing as were all the forward based players in the main.
That’s not a coincidence.
 
Phil1 said:
I don’t think he had a stinker by any stretch. That’s me being honest. You thinking I’m not being honest is on you by using terms such as ‘stinker’ and expecting others to agree with it.

He was disappointing as were all the forward based players in the main.
That’s not a coincidence.
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He didn't have a stinker if by that we mean that he wasn't very poor. He worked hard and was unlucky to hit the post twice.

But he had a poor tournament. That shouldn't be debatable. 0 goal involvements in 7 games is poor. He wasn't sufficiently involved for a player of his class, partly due to his team-mates and tactics. The thing is that he didn't do enough when he was involved. Even if one of his shots in the post had found the net, the overall performance would have been a bit poor.

Hope this experience will keep him motivated to improve and he will be great next season.
 
alexmcity said:
He didn't have a stinker if by that we mean that he wasn't very poor. He worked hard and was unlucky to hit the post twice.

But he had a poor tournament. That shouldn't be debatable. 0 goal involvements in 7 games is poor. He wasn't sufficiently involved for a player of his class, partly due to his team-mates and tactics. The thing is that he didn't do enough when he was involved. Even if one of his shots in the post had found the net, the overall performance would have been a bit poor.

Hope this experience will keep him motivated to improve and he will be great next season.
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There’s no argument that the Foden we know and love didn’t turn up.
There were reasons why of course, some on the manager and some on himself.
I object to the word stinker that’s all.
I think it’s grossly unfair.
 
Gingers Dad said:
Or England might have not needed a Bellingham wonder goal?
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„might“ it it what it is. Foden just didn’t have a good tournament when he had the ball he didn’t do much even after playing at his „ best“ position. He was a zero threat towards da opponents goal. People attacking Bellingham for playing shit but at least he scored and saved the team in the first 2 games.
 
King Jay said:
„might“ it it what it is. Foden just didn’t have a good tournament when he had the ball he didn’t do much even after playing at his „ best“ position. He was a zero threat towards da opponents goal. People attacking Bellingham for playing shit but at least he scored and saved the team in the first 2 games.
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Zero threat is untrue. He didn’t score and didn’t assist so it’s an easy argument to make if we are forgetting the occasions he was a threat and very unlucky not to score.
 
King Jay said:
„might“ it it what it is. Foden just didn’t have a good tournament when he had the ball he didn’t do much even after playing at his „ best“ position. He was a zero threat towards da opponents goal. People attacking Bellingham for playing shit but at least he scored and saved the team in the first 2 games.
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He played in his best position for 45 minutes, that 45 minutes saw England play the best football they'd play all tournament, I don't think that was a coincidence tbh

He also nearly scored a worldie like the Spanish kid the day before, I'd class that as a threat as was hitting the post in another game, of course, nearly isn't scoring but it was a threat which is what you said he was not.

Despite not playing his best, he ran his legs off for England and never stopped trying.

However, I'm unsure how Bellingham's overhead kick saved England in the first two games.

You also don't sound like much of a City fan either tbh.

ps is this also you in the Bellingham thread, attacking him?

King Jay said:
Why is no one speaking about that one? Wasted opportunity. Absolutely no media talk nothing about that one. Could’ve gotten an assist but no he rather fails than makes Foden score. Foden wasn’t even mad he knew the pass wouldn’t come regardless.
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Strange world.
 
bluealf said:
He played in his best position for 45 minutes, that 45 minutes saw England play the best football they'd play all tournament, I don't think that was a coincidence tbh

He also nearly scored a worldie like the Spanish kid the day before, I'd class that as a threat as was hitting the post in another game, of course, nearly isn't scoring but it was a threat which is what you said he was not.

Despite not playing his best, he ran his legs off for England and never stopped trying.

However, I'm unsure how Bellingham's overhead kick saved England in the first two games.

You also don't sound like much of a City fan either tbh.

ps is this also you in the Bellingham thread, attacking him?



Strange world.
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I forgot that u can’t criticize certain players as a fan. Maybe u should look past the fact that he plays for city and that he indeed didn’t play well. And what 45 minutes be played two games in row in his favorite position . Bellingham was even pushed to the left side. Strange world.
 
King Jay said:
I forgot that u can’t criticize certain players as a fan. Maybe u should look past the fact that he plays for city and that he indeed didn’t play well. And what 45 minutes be played two games in row in his favorite position . Bellingham was even pushed to the left side. Strange world.
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Literally just done that for you by saying he played well for 45 minutes, at half time he was moved back to the LW.

Ignored the slagging of Bellingham though eh, you fucking hypocrite.
 
King Jay said:
I forgot that u can’t criticize certain players as a fan. Maybe u should look past the fact that he plays for city and that he indeed didn’t play well. And what 45 minutes be played two games in row in his favorite position . Bellingham was even pushed to the left side. Strange world.
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Not disagreeing that Phil didn’t have a good tournament. Still think he only played in his best position against Holland and the team and he looked 10xs better than the boring shite that had gone before. Yes he lined up in a 10 role against Spain but Boregate had gone back to the formation of the first 4 games apart from Foden central and Bellingham wide. The team were so deep it was almost impossible for Foden to get on the ball and link the play like the first half against Holland. He had what looked like a cart horse ahead of him and Foden’s job was basically to mark Rodri which he did well during Spain’s 70% possession.

It was a completely wasted tournament given the talent Foden has and England’s other talented attacking players. Due to an extremely negative manager who appears clueless at getting the best out of attacking talent.
 
Craig said:
Not disagreeing that Phil didn’t have a good tournament. Still think he only played in his best position against Holland and the team and he looked 10xs better than the boring shite that had gone before. Yes he lined up in a 10 role against Spain but Boregate had gone back to the formation of the first 4 games apart from Foden central and Bellingham wide. The team were so deep it was almost impossible for Foden to get on the ball and link the play like the first half against Holland. He had what looked like a cart horse ahead of him and Foden’s job was basically to mark Rodri which he did well during Spain’s 70% possession.

It was a completely wasted tournament given the talent Foden has and England’s other talented attacking players. Due to an extremely negative manager who appears clueless at getting the best out of attacking talent.
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Spain were never going to play as insipid as the Netherlands. These were worse off the ball than Slovakia and the Swiss: no pressing, just a ball-watching low block. It's not a coincidence that those 45 minutes were the only half in which England played well. When teams pressed England, the connection between defence and midfield wasn't there: partly because Rice isn't what many think he is, partly because Southgate didn't/couldn't teach them how to beat the press.
 
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Danny Dyer opens up on 'friction' among England WAGs and families

Dyer, whose daughter Dani is the partner of England and West Ham star Jarrod Bowen , followed the Three Lions on the road in Germany and has opened up on his experience.
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Danny Dyer's quotes on Phil's family, fair play:

Dyer heaped praise on Phil Foden's family, insisting they are all 'lovely people'.
'They are fascinating. There's 16 of the Fodens running around, all diddy people, lovely people,' he said.

'I tell you what else I loved - very, very working class all of them. So as much as football isn’t a working class sport any more because it costs a bomb to go, the players and their roots, they’re all working class people.'
 
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