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She lost though, the problem we have to overcome is the metric on winning and who defines who wins what. You see this sort of opinion a lot in echo chambers IMHO.
Again, two million more people voted for Hillary than for Trump.

She lost the election because of the Electoral College, on the tiniest of margins at that.

She won the popular vote. That is not an opinion.
 
Again, two million more people voted for Hillary than for Trump.

She lost because of the Electoral College, on the tiniest of margins at that.

She won the popular vote. That is not an opinion.

That isn't the point I made, America has a system and she lost using that system, it doesn't mean anything that it was the tiniest of margins.
 
Yeah but that doesn't have anything to do with what I said. You can 'win' the debates and lose the election. It happens all the time. All I said is Harris would run circles around Trump who would stand up there ranting about nonsense as he always does

I have said before, if America vote the deranged lunatic into office again then America probably deserves him.
 
There's not going to be a debate. Trump has literally no upside to that. He should dismiss Harris as a "paper candidate" and run on his superhero status: defeated COVID, defeated a rigged election, defeated a rigged court system, defeated a bullet, got my opponent to resign. Make her seem too small for the job. Of course he’s too stupid for to resist and his supporters want the usual red meat, so he’ll come up with a better nickname than “Laughing Kamela” — something about how she looks like a camel as a play on her name, along with making fun of her husband for wearing an apron, something like that — and then try to tie her to the “Biden crime family” or talk about how she was Queen of Commiefornia — and they’ll chant “Lock her up” etc. etc. and we’ll be right back where we started.
 
There's not going to be a debate. Trump has literally no upside to that. He should dismiss Harris as a "paper candidate" and run on his superhero status: defeated COVID, defeated a rigged election, defeated a rigged court system, defeated a bullet, got my opponent to resign. Make her seem too small for the job. Of course he’s too stupid for to resist and his supporters want the usual red meat, so he’ll come up with a better nickname than “Laughing Kamela” — something about how she looks like a camel as a play on her name, along with making fun of her husband for wearing an apron, something like that — and then try to tie her to the “Biden crime family” or talk about how she was Queen of Commiefornia — and they’ll chant “Lock her up” etc. etc. and we’ll be right back where we started.
We’ve all said there won’t be a debate.

You seem to be really confident that Harris has no chance of defeating Trump, though?
 
Sorry, mate, that didn’t seem your point in previous posts. Is that your point now, though?

The point I am making is that the truth absolutely doesn't matter, the American political landscape seems to be one great fuck up.

Trump has the chance of a second term, when you win a TV debate yet lose the election it doesn't mean jack shit. Hillary whinged for years after that Trump was an illegitimate President but it amounted to nothing.

I don't like you because you are a fascist or that I wish you were dead when someone shot at you doesn't win elections.
 
Reading Obama's statement I think they will be pushing for a different candidate than Kamala Harris. Just my view
All the likely subjects have already said explicitly or hinted that they’re behind her. They throw this open at the convention and there’s a fight they have no prayer. Must show unity. I would assume the usual suspects knew about this a bit beforehand and were told “back her or you’re going to be ostracized.”
 
America didn’t vote Trump in to office, the electoral college did.

If it had been down to Americans voting, Clinton would have been president.

But that's the system isn't it? they have had 4 years to change it but they haven't. If he gets in again under the same system what are they going to moan about for 4 years?
 
We’ve all said there won’t be a debate.

You seem to be really confident that Harris has no chance of defeating Trump, though?
No, I don’t think it changes the odds unless she can get young people and the base out and I’m not sure yet. All I know is that it makes Trump looks stronger which re-energiz(s)es his base and helps ensure MAGA shows up. And now he’s running against a newbie with no executive track record to lean on (or rather that will be the narrative).

I’m more concerned about how Biden stepping down makes Trump look good than how it makes Democrats look bad.
 
No, I don’t think it changes the odds unless she can get young people and the base out and I’m not sure yet. All I know is that it makes Trump looks stronger which re-energiz(s)es his base and helps ensure MAGA shows up. And now he’s running against a newbie with no executive track record to lean on (or rather that will be the narrative).

I’m more concerned about how Biden stepping down makes Trump look good than how it makes Democrats look bad.
Just talking about it with the wife…..There is a chance that a non 80+ year old white candidate might actually rally some kids off their asses….probably won’t but we can hope
 
Be interesting to see if this changes anything from RFK jr running ?
The bloke is a long standing twat. Sounds like Trump is more worried about him taking votes away and offering a deal. Looks like Kennedy is just on an ego trip to me and will be irrelevant regardless hopefully. He wont get any democrats anyway, not after what I just watched. What a pair of pricks him and Trump are. And this the day after someone tried shooting him. Maniac
 
The bloke is a long standing twat. Sounds like Trump is more worried about him taking votes away and offering a deal. Looks like Kennedy is just on an ego trip to me and will be irrelevant regardless hopefully. He wont get any democrats anyway, not after what I just watched. What a pair of pricks him and Trump are. And this the day after someone tried shooting him. Maniac
They’re both total cunts
 
Trump and his cronies, including Vance, are not “hope for the best, prepare for the worst, and expect something in between” actors.

They are “hope for something in between a theocratic fascist regime and the institution of western liberal democracy being taken to the very edge of the abyss” actors.
You are delusional
 

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