It's Quiet 18 - Wanna ring the bell?

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blueparrot said:
Maybe if the club really believe in the potential of Bobb,Lewis, Mcatee, Perrone,others then the only way is for us not to fill up the squad with replacements for KDB or Kovacic, and if that's the case the fans need to stop obseessing with players like Wirtz and Musiala.If we drop off a little or win nothing this year so be it.
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That would be looked as failure by Khaldoon. The standards have been raised and those are the standards. Khaldoon is a serial winner. His post interviews after the season show that, he already wants 5 in a row
 
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vincent said:
Why would we spend close to £60m on Wharton when he has not really proved himself yet and we have Perrone who could be as good or even better?
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We were not going to. Tolmie said we were forced to move due to United interest. The club wanted to leave it another season, see how he does at Palace. Then if he continued to excel then we go for him
 
Gumzy97 said:
That would be looked as failure by Khaldoon. The standards have been raised and those are the standards. Khaldoon is serial winner. His post interviews after the season show that
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Well it wouldn’t because Khaldoun has often stated his ambition to get a few academy players in the team. I have no idea if those players are good enough non of us do. IF the club think they are though then we need to provide a path to that and keep buying established players everytime there's a space makes that harder.Maybe it’s time to bite the bullet,but tha’t up to Pep and Txikii to decide.
Look at it this way everyone want us to spend £80/100 mill replacing Gomes / Cancelo/ Phillips, how many combined minutes do they have in the last 2 years.Are we saying Lewis, Bobb, / Mcatee Perrone aren’t good enough to make up those minutes, and perform better? If we think that why hang onto them.
If KDB or Bernardo were leaving then maybe but they aren’t.
 
Gumzy97 said:
We were not going to. Tolmie said we were forced to move due to United interest. The club wanted to leave it another season, see how he does at Palace. Then if he continued to excel then we go for him
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Fair enough; personally I’m not convinced he is a serious target but perhaps I’m wrong.
 
blueparrot said:
Well it wouldn’t because Khaldoun has often stated his ambition to get a few academy players in the team. I have no idea if those players are good enough non of us do. IF the club think they are though then we need to provide a path to that and keep buying established players everytime there's a space makes that harder.Maybe it’s time to bite the bullet,but tha’t up to Pep and Txikii to decide.
Look at it this way everyone want us to spend £80/100 mill replacing Gomes / Cancelo/ Phillips, how many combined minutes do they have in the last 2 years.Are we saying Lewis, Bobb, / Mcatee Perrone aren’t good enough to make up those minutes, and perform better? If we think that why hang onto them.
If KDB or Bernardo were leaving then maybe but they aren’t.
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Not on about academy players. I meant winning nothing. Khaldoon is like Perez serial winner wants 5 in a row. Has stated that in an interview. Academy players as squad players is fine.
 
Ajm1985 said:
Ah, so it's not neglecting a position that has been needed since it was clear Phillips wasn't suitable, due to assumptions you are making that something could be lined up? Based on what?

Like I said, what other clubs are doing is irrelevant, I mentioned it as it's an oversight, alongside Villa's purchase of Onana, Califiori to Arsenal, United spending £90m on young players etc. It doesn't matter to City's plans and actions.

I don't honestly see what bargaining power you are imagining here for players that, as you have stated, we want to sell as they aren't part of Pep's plans? Cancelo was literally told to leave as he wouldn't play (effectively the same as not registering him) and went to Bayern in a day or two. They are both, effectively, unwanted assets and their future, regardless of sale or loan shouldn't be the deciding factor in getting a 6/8 in. They both have agents, who should, and will, be working on deals as they aren't part of City's plans. It's a choice, not a necessity.
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I doubt we'll be replacing either Cancelo or Phillips. Neither were part of the squad last year and so don't need replacing this year. The only purchases we'll make IMHO are if any established squad players leave.
 
blueparrot said:
Maybe if the club really believe in the potential of Bobb,Lewis, Mcatee, Perrone,others then the only way is for us not to fill up the squad with replacements for KDB or Kovacic, and if that's the case the fans need to stop obseessing with players like Wirtz and Musiala.If we drop off a little or win nothing this year so be it.
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Very good post
 
TheBlueCat said:
Very good post
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Is it though? Maybe lovely thinking about plenty of academy lads winning titles but the level this team has been at then they aren’t going to improve but be part of it? Can you imagine the media delight fired at the club if we have trophyless season just to play some academy lads!?! Khaldoon isn’t built like that and it would be a complete failure of a season by the board and manager .
 
richards30 said:
Is it though? Maybe lovely thinking about plenty of academy lads winning titles but the level this team has been at then they aren’t going to improve but be part of it? Can you imagine the media delight fired at the club if we have trophyless season just to play some academy lads!?! Khaldoon isn’t built like that and it would be a complete failure of a season by the board and manager .
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look we get it you're depressed because there hasnt been any transfers but come on things arent that bad ;)
 
richards30 said:
Is it though? Maybe lovely thinking about plenty of academy lads winning titles but the level this team has been at then they aren’t going to improve but be part of it? Can you imagine the media delight fired at the club if we have trophyless season just to play some academy lads!?! Khaldoon isn’t built like that and it would be a complete failure of a season by the board and manager .
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Who cares about the media? I don’t, that’s why I don’t have Twitter, Facebook and all that shit. I just like football and City…
 
Assuming that we will win nothing because academy players are what we decide to go with is flawed, IMO. It presupposes that the players are not good enough, and also that the club's management team has not evaluated them properly.
There are no guarantees with signing anyone, and many new players take an age to settle. Bringing the highest quality through from the ranks can avoid that. At some stage, I feel that we will take that plunge. When we do, it will be a leap of faith for all of us.
 
The academy can be used to fill squad spaces , sometimes you will get a superstar like Foden, But most of the lads if good enough can just be used as squad players or sold on for a good transfer fee.
 
Gumzy97 said:
The academy can be used to fill squad spaces , sometimes you will get a superstar like Foden, But most of the lads if good enough can just be used as squad players or sold on for a good transfer fee.
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Every superstar was once an academy player.
And some superstars were once rejected as academy players.
 
blueparrot said:
Maybe if the club really believe in the potential of Bobb,Lewis, Mcatee, Perrone,others then the only way is for us not to fill up the squad with replacements for KDB or Kovacic, and if that's the case the fans need to stop obseessing with players like Wirtz and Musiala.If we drop off a little or win nothing this year so be it.
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Is that the last of the Christmas Sherry gone now?
 
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