The Labour Government

blueinsa said:
Sounds like most of the 53 years of my life so far to be perfectly honest with you?

Cuts and higher taxes have never fixed it before so why now?

What utopia can you remember?
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What I have gleened from the administration so far is that whatever they do the red Tories will agree with, and by whatever I mean anything.

In 5 years time they will be blaming the Tories whilst doing what the Tories have done, bedroom tax FUCK OFF, they wont even abolish that, and don't mention the 2 child limit.

Reminds me very much of the "I will end homelessness" boast from Burnham, and all the while the streets are getting more clogged up with the homeless and the unfortunates of our society.
 
Gareth Barry Conlon said:
If they have combined wealth of 650k and most of it in their house then they would pay no inheritance tax. Let's wait and see what Labour do but I would guess the level it kicks in might stay the same and the change would be cutting some loopholes and increasing the rate for those that have to pay.

My parents assets are above the threshold already so I'm pretty sure I will lose out. I blame the tories.
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We manage the money for her so luckily her investments have grown but changing them

Maybe worth talking to your parents about getting rid of some before October
 
Chippy_boy said:
I find that VERY dubious indeed. Not to mention the fact that - if my understanding is correct - a big part of the 22bn, was public sector and NHS pay rises - which the Tory government were not going to pay. So it's only a black hole because Labour have decided to pay it.
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Justify the claim that public sector and NHS pay rises would be a big part of the £22bn.
 
Quad said:
My partners grandma wealth is roughly 650 k , but grandparents worked hard and progress as teachers , she is 95 now he was 98 when he passed last year , there was so careful with money both ended up in care , while people next to them got it free

My dad worked 2 jobs 7 days a week , parents paid mortage off quicker then invested so have done ok , but even now in there 70’s buy cheap food , house is like something from the 80’s

Both of them want to pass money onto children and grand children , why should labour come and try and change that
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That’s typical of your average family with what is hard earned money at the end of life and successive governments take it off them.
From a personal experience Six months home
care costs £67 thousand pounds people with no savings get it free.

The family home will be carved up and CGT IHT will take another big slice, if there was a way round it we would go down that route definitely
 
BigJoe#1 said:
Out of the frying pan....

There is no doubt this country is in a shit state and this is in no small way down to the Tories and they needed kicking out... but Labour? Trust me they are not the answer... far from it.

We need electoral reform in respect of proportional representation... everyones vote should count.
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Basically so long as we, the electorate, vote in governments with massive majorities in parliament based on only around 20-25% of the total electorate actually going out and voting for them then we can expect to suffer from a sequence of elected dictatorships. That means that each government’s over riding priority will be to retain power. Hence we will be hit hard during the first year or two to build up a government war chest and then give-away budgets to make us think everything is hunky dory. There is really not much to choose between the Labour ad Conservative parties at the moment.
 
Vic said:
Justify the claim that public sector and NHS pay rises would be a big part of the £22bn.
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Do I have to doff my cap and grovel at the same time as obeying your instructions? Anyway, putting your rudeness aside, a 5 second search yielded this:

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Chippy_boy said:
Do I have to doff my cap and grovel at the same time as obeying your instructions? Anyway, putting your rudeness aside, a 5 second search yielded this:

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At least those public workers wont be the ones who will have to have "Broad shoulders" to take the weight of her policies.
 
Kirkstall Blue said:
That’s typical of your average family with what is hard earned money at the end of life and successive governments take it off them.
From a personal experience Six months home
care costs £67 thousand pounds people with no savings get it free.

The family home will be carved up and CGT IHT will take another big slice, if there was a way round it we would go down that route definitely
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Luckily there both had good pensions and savings so was costing roughly 5.5 k a month for both now it’s about 3k a month but with the savings it shouldn’t cost so much

I think in the future people will just spend it and give it to children a lot earlier
 
Scottyboi said:
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Correct, I did vote Reform because the choices were..... well Labour, Labour or wait a minute... Labour, and whay makes it worse the Labour candidate was Stephen Kinnock a privately educated London Boy with a Welsh father who pulled strings in high places to get him probably the safest seat in the UK... fucking stinks.

When you have such a decrepit first past the post voting system your vote does not count for birdshit... unless you vote for the winner.
 
Chippy_boy said:
Do I have to doff my cap and grovel at the same time as obeying your instructions? Anyway, putting your rudeness aside, a 5 second search yielded this:

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Sorry, it was meant to sound like an exam question. And hands up, £9bn is more than I'd thought (partly as I'd assumed half of the cost would come back to the treasury in tax and NI so the net cost is less). And the big part of that is just settling what pay review bodies had recommended that the previous government hadn't budgeted for.
 
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blueinsa said:
Sounds like most of the 53 years of my life so far to be perfectly honest with you?

Cuts and higher taxes have never fixed it before so why now?

What utopia can you remember?
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No NHS waiting lists.

Sure Start.

Councils with money for parks, libraries, road repairs, subsidies to rural bus routes, to the arts. But apart from the aqueducts and the sewers, what did municipal government ever do for us?
 
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