Oasis reunion

[inbetween]

No one has a divine right to go and see anyone, just because they were there at the beginning or a so called bigger fan.
I'm grateful that I got to see Oasis at most of their seminal gigs. I don't begrudge anyone else getting the opportunity now.
The only issue I have is the dynamic pricing. Why not just set the price at 225 and everyone pay the same? The tickets were ridiculously priced at £150.

I agree, what annoys me most is that the people who paid £355 are no different to those who paid £150. You shouldn't have to pay double just because you didn't have ten laptops on the go or your online queue ballsed up or whatever. You should either get them at the same price or you don't get any at all.

It also annoys me that the Oasis lads said that buying off touts wouldn't be allowed and it'd all be done fairly. Little did anyone know that the company they have used is a tout itself.

No wonder they've said they'll cancel tickets sold elsewhere because you can absolutely bet that reseller tickets will come on over the next year and they'll be massively over £350 where Ticketmaster and Oasis will get an even bigger cut.

As much as I'd like to see them I'm sort of not bothered now.

 

[metalblue]

I've just been looking on facebook and people are reselling them - would you trust sending money to a stranger?

Absolutely not. Facebook is full of scammers. Even if they are your FB friends their accounts might be hacked. Loads of stories of people being ripped off on FB for Taylor Swift.

 

[Millwallawayveteran1988]

Did you go to the Noel Gallagher gig there a couple of years back? He was brilliant, the best of his solo stuff and some Oasis classics in the second half.

I didn’t bother with even trying for these reunion concerts but I’d go and see him and his band again.

NGHFB are great live. Like you say a good mix. Council Skies was a great album. I can only assume he is doing this for money as musically he had no need to do it.

 

[M18CTID]

NGHFB are great live. Like you say a good mix. Council Skies was a great album. I can only assume he is doing this for money as musically he had no need to do it.

You could argue that Liam had no need to do it either as he’s been doing very well too. Money will be the big driver for both of them but, money aside, I’m sure they’ll be buzzing about the amount of interest in these gigs.

 

[inbetween]

You could argue that Liam had no need to do it either as he’s been doing very well too. Money will be the big driver for both of them but, money aside, I’m sure they’ll be buzzing about the amount of interest in these gigs.

I don't think it's about the money that much because how many gigs are they doing, 15? And they aren't exactly short. They could easily sell out any stadium in the country or tour for months on end.

Obviously they'll do very well but once everybody has taken their cut they won't earn THAT much in the grand scheme of things.

I still think that they're maybe setting up for something else, new albums or maybe a bigger tour if this one goes well? The question really is can they even get along and tour for a month or two?

 

[Kirkstall Blue]

You could argue that Liam had no need to do it either as he’s been doing very well too. Money will be the big driver for both of them but, money aside, I’m sure they’ll be buzzing about the amount of interest in these gigs.

 

[Kirkstall Blue]

I don't think it's about the money that much because how many gigs are they doing, 15? And they aren't exactly short. They could easily sell out any stadium in the country or tour for months on end.

Obviously they'll do very well but once everybody has taken their cut they won't earn THAT much in the grand scheme of things.

I still think that they're maybe setting up for something else, new albums or maybe a bigger tour if this one goes well? The question really is can they even get along and tour for a month or two?

Liam is still working with John Squires new album next year and Noel said he doesn’t want to tour anymore, I can’t see the peace lasting. 16 years is a long time to fall out with your brother the same arguments will rise up again over who is boss

 

[Uncle Wally One Ball]

I don't think it's about the money that much because how many gigs are they doing, 15? And they aren't exactly short. They could easily sell out any stadium in the country or tour for months on end.

Obviously they'll do very well but once everybody has taken their cut they won't earn THAT much in the grand scheme of things.

I still think that they're maybe setting up for something else, new albums or maybe a bigger tour if this one goes well? The question really is can they even get along and tour for a month or two?

15 gigs with that pair. Thats a lot. And wont make that much money? Got to be kidding

 

[inbetween]

15 gigs with that pair. Thats a lot. And wont make that much money? Got to be kidding

If you think about it, £200 average ticket and the biggest is Wembley, 100,000 with standing? That's £20m a gig max. Take off the venue and promoter cuts and I'd be surprised if they cleared much more than £10m a gig so they'll probably net around £100-£150m which is then shared between them.

To compare, Taylor Swift and Coldplay have grossed over £1bn for their tours. If it was all about the money then they could easily jump onto that level just by doing more gigs here and abroad. I bet Peter Kay has earnt just as much over the years.

Obviously getting along for a long period is going to be an issue for them...

 

[Uncle Wally One Ball]

If you think about it, £200 average ticket and the biggest is Wembley, 100,000 with standing? That's £20m a gig max. Take off the venue and promoter cuts and I'd be surprised if they cleared much more than £10m a gig so they'll probably net around £100-£150m which is then shared between them.

To compare, Taylor Swift and Coldplay have grossed over £1bn for their tours. If it was all about the money then they could easily jump onto that level just by doing more gigs here and abroad. I bet Peter Kay has earnt just as much over the years.

Obviously getting along for a long period is going to be an issue for them...

£50m each then. Happy days, no?

 

[goater1985]

Not that I ever did, but haven't stopped listening to em since I got a ticket. Only none family thing that's ever come close to my love for City. So many songs that just make you feel alive.

Bought the 30th anniversary vinyl today and some great versions on there.

All the haters and naysayers remind me of usual anti City rubbish.

I'm absolutely mad fer em playing and cant wait.

 

[Jim Tolmie's Underpants]

Oh, bugger!

 

[Blue Maverick]

I don’t know if Ticketmaster get any sort of cut from the ticket money but they certainly charge enough in fees. I’ve never actually bothered to check if the booking fees vary with the ticket price but they were nearly £30 on my ticket, which must be a very substantial profit margin.

I don’t know who invented dynamic pricing software but no doubt TM need to offer it to clients to stay competitive.

I assume the artist approved it’s use but it could just be down to the promoter.

Those booking fees are ridiculous it’s all computerized, it should be per transaction not ticket, and it should be capped, it’s like the standing charge on gas electricity.

 

[Manchester_lalala]

If you think about it, £200 average ticket and the biggest is Wembley, 100,000 with standing? That's £20m a gig max. Take off the venue and promoter cuts and I'd be surprised if they cleared much more than £10m a gig so they'll probably net around £100-£150m which is then shared between them.

To compare, Taylor Swift and Coldplay have grossed over £1bn for their tours. If it was all about the money then they could easily jump onto that level just by doing more gigs here and abroad. I bet Peter Kay has earnt just as much over the years.

Obviously getting along for a long period is going to be an issue for them...

If they earn over £50m that would double Noels net worth and obliterate Liams.

 

[Fourinarow]

That was Natalie Pike iirc, and I think she was joking mate ;-)

There has been more than Natalie. It was said regularly earlier on in this thread. I kept reading them out to my missus - another moron reckons City season ticket holders should get first dibs on Oasis tickets again. Mental.

 

[blueparrot]

I don’t know if Ticketmaster get any sort of cut from the ticket money but they certainly charge enough in fees. I’ve never actually bothered to check if the booking fees vary with the ticket price but they were nearly £30 on my ticket, which must be a very substantial profit margin.

I don’t know who invented dynamic pricing software but no doubt TM need to offer it to clients to stay competitive.

I assume the artist approved it’s use but it could just be down to the promoter.

Found this, quite an interesting read.

"Service charges are added to the face value of concert tickets because two important players in the concert ecosystem – venues and primary ticketing companies – get little or nothing out of the revenues derived from the ticket’s face value. That money goes mostly to the performers, secondarily to cover certain show costs, and if anything is left over to the promoters. So, the practice developed to add a percentage service charge to a ticket’s face value to pay the venue for hosting the event and the primary ticketing company for servicing venues and distributing tickets. The add-on nature of the service fee is annoying to many fans and fuels the narrative that these are junk fees. But they are not junk fees for the simple reason that the venues and ticketing companies have costs associated with the services they provide to help produce the show. They provide value and one way or another will be compensated for it.

Fans are also told that service charges are Ticketmaster’s way of raising ticket prices. In fact, Ticketmaster does not set service charges, venues do, and most of the money goes to the venues. Let’s break that down."

The Truth About Ticket Prices

By Dan Wall In the ongoing antitrust attacks on Live Nation and Ticketmaster, a constant theme is that their alleged “monopolies” are responsible for high ticket prices. Rhetorically, that’s understandable, because if you want to rile up fans against Live Nation and Ticketmaster, there is no...

www.livenationentertainment.com

 

[heslops barnet]

£50m each then. Happy days, no?

£50m each? Fukin paupers

 

[OB1]

Found this, quite an interesting read.

"Service charges are added to the face value of concert tickets because two important players in the concert ecosystem – venues and primary ticketing companies – get little or nothing out of the revenues derived from the ticket’s face value. That money goes mostly to the performers, secondarily to cover certain show costs, and if anything is left over to the promoters. So, the practice developed to add a percentage service charge to a ticket’s face value to pay the venue for hosting the event and the primary ticketing company for servicing venues and distributing tickets. The add-on nature of the service fee is annoying to many fans and fuels the narrative that these are junk fees. But they are not junk fees for the simple reason that the venues and ticketing companies have costs associated with the services they provide to help produce the show. They provide value and one way or another will be compensated for it.

Fans are also told that service charges are Ticketmaster’s way of raising ticket prices. In fact, Ticketmaster does not set service charges, venues do, and most of the money goes to the venues. Let’s break that down."

The Truth About Ticket Prices

By Dan Wall In the ongoing antitrust attacks on Live Nation and Ticketmaster, a constant theme is that their alleged “monopolies” are responsible for high ticket prices. Rhetorically, that’s understandable, because if you want to rile up fans against Live Nation and Ticketmaster, there is no...

www.livenationentertainment.com

Interesting, I’ll read the full article later.

Did read yesterday that TM’s bottom line (probably pre tax) was $1B on turnover of $3B, which is very healthy.

 

[blueparrot]

Interesting, I’ll read the full article later.

Did read yesterday that TM’s bottom line (probably pre tax) was $1B on turnover of $3B, which is very healthy.

I'm sure it is, they probably employ quite small numbers worldwide. Worldwide though even if they only get ,off the top of my head,£10 on average for each ticket sold it will mount up to billions.

 

[Blue Maverick]

Found this, quite an interesting read.

"Service charges are added to the face value of concert tickets because two important players in the concert ecosystem – venues and primary ticketing companies – get little or nothing out of the revenues derived from the ticket’s face value. That money goes mostly to the performers, secondarily to cover certain show costs, and if anything is left over to the promoters. So, the practice developed to add a percentage service charge to a ticket’s face value to pay the venue for hosting the event and the primary ticketing company for servicing venues and distributing tickets. The add-on nature of the service fee is annoying to many fans and fuels the narrative that these are junk fees. But they are not junk fees for the simple reason that the venues and ticketing companies have costs associated with the services they provide to help produce the show. They provide value and one way or another will be compensated for it.

Fans are also told that service charges are Ticketmaster’s way of raising ticket prices. In fact, Ticketmaster does not set service charges, venues do, and most of the money goes to the venues. Let’s break that down."

The Truth About Ticket Prices

By Dan Wall In the ongoing antitrust attacks on Live Nation and Ticketmaster, a constant theme is that their alleged “monopolies” are responsible for high ticket prices. Rhetorically, that’s understandable, because if you want to rile up fans against Live Nation and Ticketmaster, there is no...

www.livenationentertainment.com

Thing is Ticketmaster own most of the venues, they bought out Live Nation, so they own the venues and the tickets. Obviously they don’t own Heaton Park etc but they own a lot of venues where they rip you off.