PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules
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Probably not your fault, but you fit the profile of people who pop up now and then, say something "controversial" that is bound to get a few people frothing on here, answer calmly even when getting abuse, and then disappear again. Then we read in the press how "radicalised" City fans are.
It's happened a few times so people are naturally suspicious. Probably unfairly. I'm happy to give the benefit of the doubt, but it wasn't a great first post.
Think you are taking it all a bit seriously. I'll do different things for different reasons. Some for fun, some for challenge, some to show I am happy for my views to be interrogated by anyone inc. Liverpool fans, some for pocket money. You don't have to like it and I don't even know if x or y is a good idea. Different people say different things - you can't please all the people all of the time.
But honestly, even if the Redmen TV was the worst 25 minutes ever (I think there was some interesting content and explanation on there and you can see from the comments that Liverpool fans didn't exactly see it as positive for them), who cares. As it happens, not sure why but the key take away per the comments, is that City will not be found "guilty". Make of that what you will.
Well said. We need you to spread the City point of view everywhere you can. You can’t determine what they do with it but at least it’s out there
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It's actually a real word, it just doesn't mean what he intends. And I didn't have to google it although I'm not sure if that's a good thing or not.
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I'm sure you know how strong Kevlar is.?
@slbsn Thanks for the effort you go to and putting yourself out there to explain the situation as it unfolds. I think anyone who listens carefully to what you post and the interviews and podcasts you’re on is better informed than they were at the start of all this bull shit.
I’ve got a some questions for you that I’d love your OPINION on.
1) Are you fairly resigned to us getting found guilty on the non cooperation charges against us? If you had to guess what % would you say of us being found guilty/cleared of that set of charges?
2) Are City likely to attack the Premier League and its rules on the basis that they were brought in for Financial Fair Play or Sustainability purposes but don’t appear to actually tackle those problems? If City are cleared of all of the charges could this lead to the Independent Commission making recommendations to ‘tear up’ the PSR rules and to make changes to how the Premier League is run? Is in the Independent Commissions remit? Or will City just be looking to get themselves cleared of the charges and concentrate solely on that?
3) Do you think City actually want the PSR rules tearing up? Surely City are on the inside ‘pissing out’ and the rules apart from APT, benefit us now, rather than the other way round?
I’ve got a some questions for you that I’d love your OPINION on.
1) Are you fairly resigned to us getting found guilty on the non cooperation charges against us? If you had to guess what % would you say of us being found guilty/cleared of that set of charges?
2) Are City likely to attack the Premier League and its rules on the basis that they were brought in for Financial Fair Play or Sustainability purposes but don’t appear to actually tackle those problems? If City are cleared of all of the charges could this lead to the Independent Commission making recommendations to ‘tear up’ the PSR rules and to make changes to how the Premier League is run? Is in the Independent Commissions remit? Or will City just be looking to get themselves cleared of the charges and concentrate solely on that?
3) Do you think City actually want the PSR rules tearing up? Surely City are on the inside ‘pissing out’ and the rules apart from APT, benefit us now, rather than the other way round?
Exeter Blue I am here
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We do, but personally (and this is assuming a motivation born of a desire to educate rather than self-promote) I’m not convinced there’s much mileage to be had in engaging with Redmen TV anymore than there is trying to debate anything sensible with people like Harris. They’re zealots who want the complete destruction of our club. Fuck them, now and always
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I always look forward to your posts on this thread, you are one of 4 or 5 people whose opinions I value. I'm sure the dipper fans, like the rag fans think we will be found not guilty, but I very strongly suspect that is related to their unshakeable belief in our ability to buy everybody off to avoid punishment. Of course if that were true this nonsense would never have got to this point.
Cheers.
1) no not resigned. I don’t know the extent or what city will argue. I don’t think it is the same as CAS. But can’t give per cent as I have no idea.
2) no because it’s a hopeless argument. No to the rest too
3) no
I don’t really agree with this view but we don’t have to agree
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Bullet proof ;) like Batfink..
Exeter Blue I am here
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I would suggest that owes much to their having (as a fanbase) long nurtured a demented mindset filled with images of brown envelopes stuffed with cash, corruptible judges all apparently ‘waiting to be bribed’, a complicit media (no sniggering at the back there!) and politicians pulling strings on our behalf, etc etc, rather than because they’ve been swayed by any particular legal arguments that have been put to them……although to be fair I haven’t read the actual comments, so I stand to be corrected
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"You are taking it all a bit seriously" is the educated man's version of "calm down, calm down".
I know you've not courted this but many City fans, rightly or wrongly, have invested a lot in you. With the club so tight lipped they're desperate to hear someone get the counter argument out there, and whether you like it or not, many see you as the man, but you're not the man, you've never pretended to be, regardless of Jordan's "City acolyte" bullshit.
As you've stated on many occasions, you've no inside knowledge of what City are up to. Clearly your experience and training make you a better interpreter of events than the bloke on the street, and you are to be applauded for making the wider public aware that the PL have a job on their hands proving these very serious charges, but you must know that along with the very real good you do you're spun to high heaven for negative headlines.
You might say, and with some justification, that these negative headlines would exist regardless of anything you do and you'd be right, but they wouldn't be spun with the byline "says finance expert Stefan Borson".
So am I asking you to desist? No, more power to your elbow, the red top client media will do what they do regardless and red top social media will do their thing as well, I gather you're going to be talking with the Mancunian Way soon and I'll look forward to that. But Redmen TV? If you were going to take that gig you must've known how they'd spin it, so a little push back on the loaded questions would've been welcomed.
How severe could Man City's punishments be?
I suppose we should be grateful for the question mark.foggy1974
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If someone comes on here and backs up their argument by saying I've got lawyers in the family. Do you think:-
a) that convinces us & we're doomed
or
b) they're bullshitting & haven't got a clue, probably a rival fan with a victim persuasion.