City "have made the PL uncompetitive"

[MCFC1993]

Reality is, it's never been more competitive.

Brentford in any other era would have smashed teams yesterday. We're the best team this league has seen and we were struggling to get the ball back for periods of the game.

 

[Dave Ewing's Back 'eader]

Reality is, it's never been more competitive.

Brentford in any other era would have smashed teams yesterday. We're the best team this league has seen and we were struggling to get the ball back for periods of the game.

Indeed, I said to my neighbour throughout the match that nigh on every Brentford player had a decent touch, and at one point I asked if they'd got twelve on! The most skilful team we've seen in a long time - no surprise they were the last PL team to win at The Etihad. Hope the Arse are just a little inferior!

 

[Silva&Silva]

Let me guess, it was perfectly fine when the red shirts were making the league uncompetitive?

 

[East Level 2]

Let me guess, it was perfectly fine when the red shirts were making the league uncompetitive?

It was perfectly fine when the teams with the highest number of armchair supporters (thus Sky subscribers) were making the league uncompetitive.

 

[Gorton_Tubster]

Pep has made it uncompetitive.

He came, they told him his fancy brand of football wouldn't work in blighty!
His brand of football is the future but our country doesn't like future, we like what the media tell us.

 

[Dave Ewing's Back 'eader]

Let me guess, it was perfectly fine when the red shirts were making the league uncompetitive?

We wouldn't know 'cos the word was ne'er mentioned!

 

[.db.]

In the Premiership/Premier League era…

From 1993-2011 (ie. before City started winning Prem titles), there were only 5 last day title deciders in those 18 years (1994-95, 1995-96, 1998-99, 2007-08, 2009-10).

In just the last 13 years, with City at the top, there have been 5 last day title deciders (2011-12, 2013-14, 2018-19, 2021-22, 2023-24). In three of those City had to come from behind to win the game to win the league: 1-2 down against QPR, 1-0 down against Brighton and 0-2 down against Villa.

In those first 18 years of the Prem era, there were 4 different winners of the Prem (United, Blackburn, Arsenal, Chelsea). In the last 13 years there have been 5 different winners of the Prem (City, United, Chelsea, Leicester, Liverpool).

So the fact is that the league has never been more competitive in the Premiership/Premier League era.

 

[train man]

Even with our 100 point season, we threw in a last minute goal for the lols.

City, bringing all the thrills to the title race.

Just in case anyone missed that angle a Saints fan posted, good shot of our end...

 

[give it to gordon]

Brentford who were fucking nowhere 10 years ago gave the best team in the world a run for their money today.

Todays Prem is unrelenting, teams of old were beaten by MANURE on fixture release date.

Teams would field weakened sides against UTD if they had a run of fixtures a bit tricky and basically give them a BYE. I spent a lot of their glory years off my tits on drugs and or pissed up but i can remember when teams went at em Utd looked at their weakest.

All the fuckers on talksport this week have been going on about "The Glory Days of Football"...The best football this country has ever seen is being played in this country all across the counties because Pep Guardiola manages Man City and his ethos and style can be replicated.

Manchester United had a absolutely brilliant batch of players come through at once when they could afford to buy the players others couldn't.

I would hate to cast aspersions (because as pointed out i was fooked most of the 90's , but the advent of

SKY TV, Premier League, United's flotations were too much of a perfect storm for me, some insider dealings and such like must have gone on

I had forgotten about throwing matches against the rags. But that went on

 

[jamielowndes]

United, Chelsea, Liverpool, Arsenal all have the resources to make it competitive.

We are not at fault for the incompetence of other teams.

 

[Dave Ewing's Back 'eader]

In the Premiership/Premier League era…

From 1993-2011 (ie. before City started winning Prem titles), there were only 5 last day title deciders in those 18 years (1994-95, 1995-96, 1998-99, 2007-08, 2009-10).

In just the last 13 years, with City at the top, there have been 5 last day title deciders (2011-12, 2013-14, 2018-19, 2021-22, 2023-24).

So the fact is that the league has never been more competitive in the Premiership/Premier League era.

In those first 18 years of the Prem era, there were 4 different winners of the Prem (United, Blackburn, Arsenal, Chelsea). In the last 13 years there have been 5 different winners of the Prem (City, United, Chelsea, Leicester, Liverpool).

The RDAHMeedya don't like the use of this word. They like opinion, axiom, and general media shite as the basis of what they report.

 

[Gazza]

My neighbour has done really well for himself, brand new car, his house is perfect with a beautiful garden while I'm here with my crumbling pad that I haven't spent a penny on and a 12 year car on the road when it's working, anyhow I petitioned the council to get everything he has taken off him, it's only fair after all.

 

[bluemc]

Are we being used as the excuse for the failure of others again?

Other clubs consistently spend more money than us, so we aren't buying success.

We hear from fans and media acolytes of other clubs how great their managers are, how fantastic their players are, but our players are dismissed as "system players" or "tap in merchant". So we aren't winning because we've got the best players or manager, apparently.

So something doesn't stack up. How are we making things uncompetitive if we don't spend the most, don't have the best manager, and don't have the best players?

Seems to me like others need to work harder to get better!

 

[Prestwich_Blue]

Indeed, I said to my neighbour throughout the match that nigh on every Brentford player had a decent touch, and at one point I asked if they'd got twelve on! The most skilful team we've seen in a long time - no surprise they were the last PL team to win at The Etihad. Hope the Arse are just a little inferior!

We were saying the same thing about the relative numbers. It seemed like they had one more than us at times. They showed it's perfectly possible to come to The Etihad and play football, rather than stick 10 men behind the ball.

But I saw that comment on the BBC live feed about it being uncompetitive. Let's look at the facts since Pep arrived:

2016/17 - 3rd, 15 points behind winners Chelsea
2017/18 - the Centurions season, won it by 19 points
2018/19 - won it by 1 point
2019/20 - 2nd, 18 points behind Liverpool
2020/21 - won it by 12 points
2021/22 - won it by 1 point
2022/23 - won it by 5 points
2023/24 - won it by 2 points

So only in 2 out of Pep's 8 seasons have we won it by a margin of more than 5 points. And even in 2022/23, Arsenal dropped 6 points in their last 3 games, which is hardly our fault. So there's only 2 seasons where we've won it comfortably.

 

[kippax_blueboy]

It's a tough league where any team can beat City, Arsenal, Liverpool, etc
Many the games are a battle you have to just get through.
City and Villa did that yesterday Liverpool didn't.

 

[Dave Ewing's Back 'eader]

It's a tough league where any team can beat City, Arsenal, Liverpool, etc
Many the games are a battle you have to just get through.
City and Villa did that yesterday Liverpool didn't.

Ah but the competitive element was missing at Anfield yesterday. Arse Snot admitted that Liverpool played like a bucket of MANUre!

 

[StillBluessinceHydeRoad]

If the PL is uncompetitive the other clubs should examine what they're doing and try to improve the way they play football. But first they need to shut up about cheating, drop the 115 charges and just accept that City are run better, trained better and just play better a lot more often than the other PL clubs. We don't have to cheat - we've got Pep! And other top quality off and on the pitch. If the PL is uncompetitive it's a problem for the other clubs, it's not our problem. We're not going to throw games to make scousers and cockneys feel better.

 

[mexico1970]

If the PL is uncompetitive the other clubs should examine what they're doing and try to improve the way they play football. But first they need to shut up about cheating, drop the 115 charges and just accept that City are run better, trained better and just play better a lot more often than the other PL clubs. We don't have to cheat - we've got Pep! And other top quality off and on the pitch. If the PL is uncompetitive it's a problem for the other clubs, it's not our problem. We're not going to throw games to make scousers and cockneys feel better.

The amount of money premiership teams earn now there is no excuse for them not to give it a go, most are just treading water keeping their own corner of the world safe and the money they make safe.

Not a jot of interest in competing.

 

[Pablo ZZZ Peroni]

We were saying the same thing about the relative numbers. It seemed like they had one more than us at times. They showed it's perfectly possible to come to The Etihad and play football, rather than stick 10 men behind the ball.

But I saw that comment on the BBC live feed about it being uncompetitive. Let's look at the facts since Pep arrived:

2016/17 - 3rd, 15 points behind winners Chelsea
2017/18 - the Centurions season, won it by 19 points
2018/19 - won it by 1 point
2019/20 - 2nd, 18 points behind Liverpool
2020/21 - won it by 12 points
2021/22 - won it by 1 point
2022/23 - won it by 5 points
2023/24 - won it by 2 points

So only in 2 out of Pep's 8 seasons have we won it by a margin of more than 5 points. And even in 2022/23, Arsenal dropped 6 points in their last 3 games, which is hardly our fault. So there's only 2 seasons where we've won it comfortably.

20/21 was competitive.On 19th December in 20/21 Liverpool won 7-0 away at Palace. The media went wild “best team in the world, got Pep’s number etc”.

Liverpool odds on favourites and we were lingering in 6th place and 8 points behind. And then they blew up and Gundogan did Gundogan things…(Edit: Gundogan scored 12 goals from 19Dec2020 onwards, only Kane scored more, and finished as our top-scorer. He then of course did more Gundogan things in the Villa game at the end of the 21/22 season)

 

[jimharri]

20/21 was competitive.On 19th December in 20/21 Liverpool won 7-0 away at Palace. The media went wild “best team in the world, got Pep’s number etc”.

Liverpool odds on favourites and we were lingering in 6th place and 8 points behind. And then they blew up and Gundogan did Gundogan things…

If you're referring to the Villa last day game, that was the 22/23 season. We won the 20/21 league by 12 points.