City "have made the PL uncompetitive"

Indeed.

Even stretch it out further:

Liverpool won the league 11 times in 17 years (1972-73, 1975-76, 1976-77, 1978-79, 1979-80, 1981-82, 1982-83, 1983-84, 1985-86, 1987-88 and 1989-90).
That’s 64.7% of the time in that period.

United won the league 13 times in 21 years (1992-93, 1993-94, 1995-96, 1996-97, 1998-99, 1999-00, 2000-01, 2002-03, 2006-07, 2007-08, 2008-09, 2010-11, 2012-13).
That’s 61.9% of the time in that period.

City have won the league 8 times in 13 years (2011-12, 2013-14, 2017-18, 2018-19, 2020-21, 2021-22, 2022-23, 2023-24).
That’s 61.5% of the time in this period.

Top two clubs, that was alright, no problem.
Bottom one, that’s not alright, it is a problem.

Even if we win another four titles in the next six seasons to split the other two’s 17 and 21 years of dominance, calling ours 19 years of dominance with 12 league titles in this time period, that’s still only 63.1%.
When we won the league in 1968 I was overjoyed and thought it was a miracle. I never in my wildest dreams thought that we would go on to win it another 8 times. If we never won another trophy it would not bother me in the slightest.
 
That was a wonderful season, so exciting to watch every week. I am still pissed off we lost against them on that day though.
just postponed the celebration a week later when rags contrived to get beat by baggies - and what a bender that was in the pub that afternoon - our gang literally just congregated at the pub and lost the rest of the day!
 
1968 was the last day too.

City away, rags at home.

Biggest club ground away following in City's history ( apart from the 250000 at York).

27000 in Newcastle.....what a bloody day !!
Yes was at the game City all over the ground,me and my mates in the Leazers covered end behind the goals Newcastle fan told me few years later only away fans to come in our end.Pay on the gate times happy days when you and your mates could do all the away trips.
 
Yes was at the game City all over the ground,me and my mates in the Leazers covered end behind the goals Newcastle fan told me few years later only away fans to come in our end.Pay on the gate times happy days when you and your mates could do all the away trips.
Went on the open side, but walked across the pitch into the covered Leazes End with my late father & sister, along with my elder and younger brother.

I was 16.
 
1968 was the last day too.

City away, rags at home.

Biggest club ground away following in City's history ( apart from the 250000 at York).

27000 in Newcastle.....what a bloody day !!
The A1 up to Newcastle was a sea of blue with every possible type of vehicle put to use for the day.
 
The A1 up to Newcastle was a sea of blue with every possible type of vehicle put to use for the day.
Motor bikes, Scooters, 3 Wheelers even 2 mopeds....

It was like an auto jumble rally.

How they got there was a miracle....how they got back was divine intervention .

A great day !!
 
So in 32 seasons the premier league has been decided on the final day 10 times with 5 of those being won by City in the last 12 years. So that means 5 in the first 20 years of the premier league & 5 in the last 12. It means out of our 8 premier league titles we’ve only won 3 before last game. The Rags won 10 of their 13 before the last game of the season.

 
PL teams dominating in Europe with Villa and Liverpool winning away yesterday does indicate the strength of the PL City/Pep have actually improved the standard of PL teams now contrary to what the naysayers would have you believe.
 
PL teams dominating in Europe with Villa and Liverpool winning away yesterday does indicate the strength of the PL City/Pep have actually improved the standard of PL teams now contrary to what the naysayers would have you believe.
A win at Young Boys doesn't prove that. The Prem is strong but Europe is completely different. It would suggest a massive gap between Madrid and us when in reality there isn't any gap, not in their favour anyway.

The complaints are from fans of teams who won in the past and don't anymore. Nothing much more to it than that, similar to last year. The first time we are European champions and many reports about it being boring and predictable now. I have never seen before that competition get disrespected to them levels. That was during a group stage which saw United dumped out bottom of their group, an exciting group Newcastle was in and then some classic ties in the quarters. The second we was knocked out I didn't read anything about the competition being boring and predictable, especially when the winners were the team who win it the most.....
 
.....and we became CENTURIONS with a goal from the last kick of the last game of the season.

The great entertainers !!
I didn't think I was bothered about 100 points until Jesus chipped the keeper and the ball dropped under the bar just in front of us.
Utter bedlam, with most of the backroom staff celebrating in the corner in front of the players.
Still pissed off Southampton wouldn't allow City players to celebrate with the fans straight after the game.
 
Went to watch my local NW counties league club Thornton Cleveleys play Droylesdon a couple of weeks back. Was astonished by the quality of the football, both sides playing out from the back. When I watched Fleetwood at this level 20 years ago it was all kick and rush and lump it forward. Convinced Pep has influenced football at all levels and this can only be good. Great bloods following by the way and while delighted Thornton won hope everybody had a good day.
 
A win at Young Boys doesn't prove that. The Prem is strong but Europe is completely different. It would suggest a massive gap between Madrid and us when in reality there isn't any gap, not in their favour anyway.

The complaints are from fans of teams who won in the past and don't anymore. Nothing much more to it than that, similar to last year. The first time we are European champions and many reports about it being boring and predictable now. I have never seen before that competition get disrespected to them levels. That was during a group stage which saw United dumped out bottom of their group, an exciting group Newcastle was in and then some classic ties in the quarters. The second we was knocked out I didn't read anything about the competition being boring and predictable, especially when the winners were the team who win it the most.....
 
So in 32 seasons the premier league has been decided on the final day 10 times with 5 of those being won by City in the last 12 years. So that means 5 in the first 20 years of the premier league & 5 in the last 12. It means out of our 8 premier league titles we’ve only won 3 before last game. The Rags won 10 of their 13 before the last game of the season.

And 2 out of those 3 were purely down to Liverpool and Arsenal respectively bottling it. Dropping 6 out of the last 9 Arsenal, really!!!
 

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