PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

oldius said:
Perfect example. I was discussing the case with a Liverpool fan. His take was that if we are found guilty, it's right; if we are found innocent, it's because of clever and expensive lawyers.
It started with the usual 'time-barred' stuff.
I showed the CAS media release, he didn't believe it.
It tribalism backed by envy and stupidity. His anger was unnatural.
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I can’t believe we no longer have ducking stools to settle these things.
 
I don't want the result to be the super league. I want us to win the case and the PL to make a statement that they are happy to have everything cleared up and that no more tarnishing our name will be accepted or the PL will take action.

The PL could still come out of this as the good guys imo if they play their cards right.
 
UbyM said:
Members of each club.
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So Madrid, Barcelona, Milan, Inter, Bayern, United, Liverpool, Arsenal, Spurs and the rest, and that would be better for City than a competition run by UEFA?

I get what you are meaning, but City are on better terms with UEFA than they are with the PL and the other clubs at the moment.

All imho.
 
BerkshireBlue said:
this is a stupid rule as it's open to interpretation. Also Liverpool would have been investigated for breaking this rule when they hacked into our computer software. That time they said due to the time involved they weren't proceeding. So it's fine one team but not the other
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Setting a precedent its something that we can use in our defence
 
TonyM said:
I don't want the result to be the super league. I want us to win the case and the PL to make a statement that they are happy to have everything cleared up and that no more tarnishing our name will be accepted or the PL will take action.

The PL could still come out of this as the good guys imo if they play their cards right.
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When City win on the substantive allegations, Masters will be gone, a new CEO will be appointed without undue influence, the IR will come in and City will be well placed, imo.

Any attempt to reignite a super league will be shot down by fans again. The cartel clubs may want to try but they don't understand the football culture in the UK. They just see it as business.
 
halfcenturyup said:
So Madrid, Barcelona, Milan, Inter, Bayern, United, Liverpool, Arsenal, Spurs and the rest, and that would be better for City than a competition run by UEFA?

I get what you are meaning, but City are on better terms with UEFA than they are with the PL and the other clubs at the moment.

All imho.
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Yes, but after we’ve taken legal action against the Premier League and the red cartel. We have previous with Uefa too. If we play our cards right which I believe we will, then no one can mess us about again and we will stamp our authority. The Super League would then be run fairly.
 
One Fan Clapping said:
Did United bribe the “FA” to get a £70m overspend on PSR brushed under the carpet.

Why were United never charged by the PL for failing UEFA FFP? Isn’t it a rule they have to pass their rules too?
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It's nearly £170m over the permitted 3 years I think with £40m attributed to Covid (all other clubs got £1m) and anything from £35m - £48m for the transfer of shares to Jolly Jim.

It should be investigated and the Rags should be charged, 100% failed.
 
halfcenturyup said:
When City win on the substantive allegations, Masters will be gone, a new CEO will be appointed without undue influence, the IR will come in and City will be well placed, imo.

Any attempt to reignite a super league will be shot down by fans again. The cartel clubs may want to try but they don't understand the football culture in the UK. They just see it as business.
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Still really pains me that City got in bed with the Super League. We could have had such a huge win from a PR perspective by staying away from it and showing we care about the domestic game. A serious own goal that.

Having said that, perhaps the play was more through hope that joining the cartel would alleviate their opposition to us behind the scenes and prevent them from pushing for charges or unlawful rule changes that significantly harm us.

City aren't particularly bothered by what the media think as long as commercial partners are still writing cheques.
 
hammocity said:
It's nearly £170m over the permitted 3 years I think with £40m attributed to Covid (all other clubs got £1m) and anything from £35m - £48m for the transfer of shares to Jolly Jim.

It should be investigated and the Rags should be charged, 100% failed.
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What was the reason they were given more mitigation for COVID than other clubs?
 
GRB said:
Wonder after all this, will magic hat, once all has been cleared, change his name to Magic douche.
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Rory Bluelow said:
Great post
…it’s all “I’ve gone off football…all about money these days”
We’ve totally sucked the joy out of it for the bastards - no wonder they hate us and will believe any old shite. The better we get and the bigger the gap the more stupid, desperate and deluded they get. They’re never going to recognise how good we are - they can’t !
Fuck em.
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The ironic thing is - money was always about money... but even moreso after the creation of the Premier League - Which was THEIR doing! They, along with Liverpool, Arsenal and Spurs are the reason the PL is all about money, what they hate is that our owners are better at business than they are!
 
r.soleofsalford said:
You are and old softie.

I`m a vindictive ****, I want all our detractor ruined financially, money, assets every thing. I want them and their families left destitute, potless, penniless and without a roof over their heads.
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Same here - I sincerely hope that ever since that first UEFA accusation we have been 'acquiring' filth on all our detractors... fire with fire.
When our name is cleared I'm envisaging a scene like the end of the Godfather - Mansour sat there whilst everyone gets their come uppance!
 
dario2739 said:
Same here - I sincerely hope that ever since that first UEFA accusation we have been 'acquiring' filth on all our detractors... fire with fire.
When our name is cleared I'm envisaging a scene like the end of the Godfather - Mansour sat there whilst everyone gets their come uppance!
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We don't need to do that. The best way to hurt them is to continue winning the big prizes, making the most revenue and watching the US owners squirm when they have to plough more money into their football clubs just to finish 2nd.
 
halfcenturyup said:
When City win on the substantive allegations, Masters will be gone, a new CEO will be appointed without undue influence, the IR will come in and City will be well placed, imo.

Any attempt to reignite a super league will be shot down by fans again. The cartel clubs may want to try but they don't understand the football culture in the UK. They just see it as business.
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I suspect that the woman from the PL (can't recall her name) who presented the trophy at the end of last season will replace Masters. Everyone at the club seemed to be making a point that they liked her and got on well.
 
HolisticJim said:
They can only 'do something about city' if there is something to find.
The rest is just conjecture.

They could easily have stopped at any time and the mud would have still stuck.

I can well see us being found guilty on some of the charges and the punishment being spread over several years in order to cause the most damage to us.

Sure, we will appeal and the number of years reduced but I would simply be amazed if, after all these years of investigating, the legal team who are fronting this are happy to go into a wishy washy case and have their personal reputation damaged.

The flip side is that if we are found not guilty then the financial damages we would seek would be catastrophic to the Premier League.
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UEFA spent years investigating us too and look how that ended for them at CAS. They also broke their own time-barring rules in order to find us guilty on some of the charges which is beyond desperation. And that’s despite them having a legal team.

Obviously, there’s no CAS this time but the IC is pretty much the equivalent of CAS in that it will be independent of the PL which should result in a fair hearing.

Is it a wishy washy case? On the face of it, I think it is. No doubt there were questions for us to answer but the evidence appears to be only circumstantial and if this was being heard in a proper court of law I reckon it would’ve been thrown out before it even got there. Of course, there could be a “smoking gun” that none of us aware of and City could’ve been lying to us all along about their innocence but I don’t buy that, not least because of Pep’s bullishness in recent press conferences. I don’t think he’d be saying those things if the club weren’t confident of their position.
 
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