Keir Starmer

I've no real time for Starmer, and considerably less for arsenal, but anyone making an issue of him sitting in "corporate" as PM is just being an idiot, and the bbc asking where he'll be sitting is just wrong.

He's PM, and right now (like him or not), it's in the interest of both him, and arsenal, that they make sure he's safe from said idiots.
 
cleavers said:
I've no real time for Starmer, and considerably less for arsenal, but anyone making an issue of him sitting in "corporate" as PM is just being an idiot, and the bbc asking where he'll be sitting is just wrong.

He's PM, and right now (like him or not), it's in the interest of both him, and arsenal, that they make sure he's safe from said idiots.
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In principle, I agree with you, but it's difficult to spout a 'difficult decisions' narrative with cuts to benefits and increases in taxes, while also accepting luxury gifts. It's true that he can't just go on the terraces any more. That's one of many consequences of becoming the Prime Minister. He also can't go out for a jog without having security following him. If you're not willing to sacrifice things, don't take the job.

Personally, I don't think any politician should be accepting any gift unless it's clearly fulfilling a parliamentary duty. Even if there's nothing dodgy going on, the optics just undermine trust in politics, and minister accepting thousands of pounds of free football tickets at a time when there are plans to bring in an independent regulator is a perfect example of those poor optics.

I think Ian Hislop put it best a couple of years ago.

 
I'm With Stupid said:
In principle, I agree with you, but it's difficult to spout a 'difficult decisions' narrative with cuts to benefits and increases in taxes, while also accepting luxury gifts. It's true that he can't just go on the terraces any more. That's one of many consequences of becoming the Prime Minister. He also can't go out for a jog without having security following him. If you're not willing to sacrifice things, don't take the job.

Personally, I don't think any politician should be accepting any gift unless it's clearly fulfilling a parliamentary duty. Even if there's nothing dodgy going on, the optics just undermine trust in politics, and minister accepting thousands of pounds of free football tickets at a time when there are plans to bring in an independent regulator is a perfect example of those poor optics.

I think Ian Hislop put it best a couple of years ago.

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All they have to do to stop the whole issue is;

A) Make MPs seek clearance for accepting a gift prior to attending a hospitality event or receiving the donation etc- ideally from a central compliance body,
B) Make MPs provide a full explanation of why they want to receive the donation or hospitality,
C) Set an annual limit for hospitality/ gifts received
D) Once that limit has been exceeded, either prevent MPs from receiving any additional hospitality etc, or treat the gift as additional income and make the MP pay tax on the monetary value at their marginal rate of tax.

Not that difficult. Lots of other industries have similar, robust rules around gifts and hospitality and they exist for good reason.
 
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City are the first negative item on all the sports news outlets, can I assume you think we’re guilty?
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Guilty? What you talking about? I was replying to someone who said it wasn't a big story.

I know you have been under pressure today Keir, try breathing and comprehending posts.

Breath and comprehend
Breath and comprehend

Daft twat :-)
 
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hilts said:
Guilty? What you talking about? I was replying to someone who said it wasn't a big story.

I know you have been under pressure today Keir, try breathing and comprehending posts.

Breath and comprehend
Breath and comprehend

Daft twat :-)
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Love it. Get yourself involved.

Keep smiiiiiiling ;-)
 
city2 said:
This fucker has had more gifts than any other minister since 2019, 8k private box per game at the gunners. Amongst many others and he’s only been in the job a few weeks, what a corrupt and dishonest government we have again.
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Somehow this was missed off that list of donations.

www.theguardian.com

Boris Johnson given £1m donation by former Brexit party backer

Tech investor Christopher Harborne’s gift to former PM’s personal office stokes comeback speculation
www.theguardian.com www.theguardian.com
 
Postman Pep said:
Keith pissing down our legs and telling us it is raining


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Even Crace is noticing

www.theguardian.com

With a lust for freebies and hobbled by infighting, Labour look like the Tories 2.0 | John Crace

The prime minister promised a government a world apart from Rishi Sunak’s, yet the similarities are mounting
www.theguardian.com www.theguardian.com
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Crace is always good and perceptive.

So far as this forum is concerned, he's got this right with his comparison with Johnson:
"the same people outraged now were not outraged then".
 
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