North Stand Construction Discussion

[TheGhost]

Isn't it a PL requirement that away fans are at pitchside?

Exceptions have been made for United and Newcastle.

Yes it is. I’d make the lowest tier section even smaller - just enough so we can meet that requirement

 

[TheGhost]

The club could even offer senior citizens their own reduced price block and get all the Main Stand Moaners in one place.

 

[jrb]

Having away fans at the back of SSL3 is preferable to pitch side where they can influence the game more.

I don't remember seeing or hearing away fans influencing the games at Liverpool, Arsenal, Spurs, etc. What I do hear is little or no noise from those away sections on the pitch side corners. Compare that to the noise and support 1000+ away fans generate on SSL3.

 

[spiny]

The club could even offer senior citizens their own reduced price block and get all the Main Stand Moaners in one place.

I agree with the sentiment except not all senior citizens/FOC's are "Main Stand Moaners" and we have our fair share of younger ones. All possibly could be moved to the same reduced price, out of the way block thus giving one less thing to moan about.

 

[spiny]

The club could even offer senior citizens their own reduced price block and get all the Main Stand Moaners in one place.

An alternative option would be to create a new restricted view block for them, preferably high up with no lift access, complete with leaking roof to distract them from the actual football.

 

[bluemanchester]

The club could even offer senior citizens their own reduced price block and get all the Main Stand Moaners in one place.

That would be like a Cliff Richard concert, the whole block smelling of piss;-)

 

[Gone for a Burton]

It's no myth Ghost.... it's common sense and the best long term solution.

1) Away fans split up pitchside round the corner flag. Harder to generate stadium wide noise.

2) No diluting of security, segregation, h&s, logistics, coach transport etc.

3) Little risk of dangerous missiles being thrown on to City fans from height.

4) Benefit of away fans being directed to alight the metro at ASDA/ANR directly in to their security zone and away from our fan zone and coach welcome.

5) A dedicated SS2/3 second home end.

6) Offer all relocated City fans first choice of seats in SS1/2/3 (close to the away fans) or in NS2.

Any reasonable 'authority' using common sense & logic should see no risk but several security advantages to a change.

From the clubs perspective this can be achieved with little or no capital expenditure but numerous advantages & benefits.

Finally, many fans have been negatively relocated during our time at the Etihad, others have chosen to relocate including some in the the 'new singing section' several years ago

CONTINUED.....Their physical location in the ground is arguably one of the poorest viewing positions in the stadium and the 'noise' generated doesn't spread and often competes with that of the SS.

IF IF IF their interest is focused on improving the atmosphere (hence the reason for relocating in the first place) their are no valid reasons for not joining in with thousands of other like minded fans but in superior viewing positions.

Lastly, if the Police/Licencing Authority/Club don't see the logic and value of no away fans hurling coins & other injury causing objects from height on to City fans, or away fans being directed to alight the metro at ASDA/ANR thus avoiding the new fan zone & CB coach welcome, they need changing too.

Common sense isn't very common these days !!

Having away fans at the back of SSL3 is preferable to pitch side where they can influence the game more.

 

[blueparrot]

CONTINUED.....Their physical location in the ground is arguably one of the poorest viewing positions in the stadium and the 'noise' generated doesn't spread and often competes with that of the SS.

IF IF IF their interest is focused on improving the atmosphere (hence the reason for relocating in the first place) their are no valid reasons for not joining in with thousands of other like minded fans but in superior viewing positions.

Lastly, if the Police/Licencing Authority/Club don't see the logic and value of no away fans hurling coins & other injury causing objects from height on to City fans, or away fans being directed to alight the metro at ASDA/ANR thus avoiding the new fan zone & CB coach welcome, they need changing too.

Common sense isn't very common these days !!

There won't be 2 standing home ends, there may or may not be standing in the upper tier,but if there is it will be either the North stand or the South. More likely the North because the entire SS3 wouldn't need relocating.Plus the away fans aren't going anywhere.

 

[Gone for a Burton]

CONTINUED.....Their physical location in the ground is arguably one of the poorest viewing positions in the stadium and the 'noise' generated doesn't spread and often competes with that of the SS.

IF IF IF their interest is focused on improving the atmosphere (hence the reason for relocating in the first place) their are no valid reasons for not joining in with thousands of other like minded fans but in superior viewing positions.

Lastly, if the Police/Licencing Authority/Club don't see the logic and value of no away fans hurling coins & other injury causing objects from height on to City fans, or away fans being directed to alight the metro at ASDA/ANR thus avoiding the new fan zone & CB coach welcome, they need changing too.

Common sense isn't very common these days !!

Disagree !!

Using Wolves as the best example of fans along the side and close to the pitch, it's the hardest place to generate noise and intensity......ditto Arse & Spuds.

A 'round the corner flag' relocation imo reduces away fans influence and increases City fans influenceand intensity.

Where there's a will there's a way !!
.

 

[Gone for a Burton]

There won't be 2 standing home ends, there may or may not be standing in the upper tier,but if there is it will be either the North stand or the South. More likely the North because the entire SS3 wouldn't need relocating.Plus the away fans aren't going anywhere.

I haven't referenced safe standing in my posts.

 

[blueparrot]

I haven't referenced safe standing in my posts.

I think when most talk about a dedicated home end creating an atmosphere most assume standing in it is the way to go.

 

[Gone for a Burton]

I think when most talk about a dedicated home end creating an atmosphere most assume standing in it is the way to go.

Agreed....but seating must not be excluded.

Some of we FOCs now prefer to sit.

 

[Invisible Man's Bandage]

The club could even offer senior citizens their own reduced price block and get all the Main Stand Moaners in one place.

Oh...another one throwing his toys out of the pram after posters disagree with his ideas on safe standing.

Moaners is the default insult of these mard arses!

 

[Kippaxpete]

Agreed....but seating must not be excluded.

Some of we FOCs now prefer to sit.

Indeed, not only FOCs but families and plenty of other fans irrespective of age. Let's also not forget that it isn't a matter of choice for those with disabilities, hidden or otherwise and that age isn't necessarily the determining factor for this group either.

 

[Kippaxpete]

Oh...another one throwing his toys out of the pram after posters disagree with his ideas on safe standing.

Moaners is the default insult of these mard arses!

I wouldn't bother even engaging mate. It's a dead giveaway whenever someone resorts to juvenile name-calling - particularly the tiresome 'moaners' tag - ostensibly because others happen to disagree with them.

 

[jrb]

We don't know what the club has got planned for the North stand and the Etihad. Until the North stand plans are revealed, including stadium wide relocation plans, there will always be a possibility that away fans could be relocated. I'm not saying that will happen.

 

[jrb]

Disagree !!

Using Wolves as the best example of fans along the side and close to the pitch, it's the hardest place to generate noise and intensity......ditto Arse & Spuds.

A 'round the corner flag' relocation imo reduces away fans influence and increases City fans influenceand intensity.

Where there's a will there's a way !!
.

Where's our best away support? Newcastle, United, Leicester, Everton, Chelsea. Some of those away ends are in the corner, but they are single tiers that go from the pitch to the back of the stand, or are split over two tiers, or are blocks at the back of the stand.

 

[TheGhost]

Oh...another one throwing his toys out of the pram after posters disagree with his ideas on safe standing.

Moaners is the default insult of these mard arses!

You literally just proven that you’re a moaning FOC.

 

[TheGhost]

Why can’t singers or people who want to stand have a better view than the lower tier? It’s a big ground and there’s plenty of room for everyone.
I was forcibly removed through huge price increases when Joe’s was introduced.
But the logistics can be done so that everyone is happy and there’s a place for everyone.
Some people like to moan like fuck about everything and refuse to embrace any kind of change.

 

[Gone for a Burton]

Why can’t singers or people who want to stand have a better view than the lower tier? It’s a big ground and there’s plenty of room for everyone.
I was forcibly removed through huge price increases when Joe’s was introduced.
But the logistics can be done so that everyone is happy and there’s a place for everyone.
Some people like to moan like fuck about everything and refuse to embrace any kind of change.

The only thing that is constant is change !!

Where's our best away support? Newcastle, United, Leicester, Everton, Chelsea. Some of those away ends are in the corner, but they are single tiers that go from the pitch to the back of the stand, or are split over two tiers, or are blocks at the back of the stand.

.....and they don’t get split up by going round a corner.

Palace is another example of front to back allocation where fans feel together and there is stadium wide noise and intensity from home and away fans.

A 9000, all City fans SS3, will be very noisy,intense and intimidating and will be looking down on the rags’ dippers etc ....what’s not to like ??