PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

M18CTID said:
After CAS it died down to nothing more than a whimper and many people kind of moved on. If we win this time, it might take longer for it to die down because this one is on our doorstep and involves domestic rivals and fans of those rivals. However, opposition fans will be made to look like cunts by our fans at every opportunity if they continue to peddle the cheats narrative whenever we play them. Believe me, 1894 will never be short of a display idea again and we’ll be milking it for fucking years. Ironically, if this case goes our way it could be one of the greatest marketing tools the club and fans have ever had!
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That’s such a great point. Victory in this legal battle is a huge commercial opportunity for us.
 
OntarioBlue said:
I saw this yesterday and was wondering when BFS suddenly became so sensible. Maybe he’s after a job at the Club ?
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Allardyce has always been a rational guy, unfairly maligned due to football style and his accent by the gutter Oxbridge-type press. He practically helped invent modern sports science in this country but history has credited Wenger because "Le Professor" told his players to stop getting pissed the day before a game and he's a "French intellectual" rather than a fat Brummie who played organised football.
 
bobbyowenquiff said:
It shows people like Daniel Levy up for what he is. No wonder Spurs is one of the most underachieving clubs in the world with someone like him at the helm. He has wasted energy on hating City when he should have focused on his own club. The same applies to JW Henry and FSG. City have taken over in the USA. The backyard of FSG and the Glazers.
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With Levy I’m not sure its “hate” as such - just naked self-interest. They’ve an expensive stadium to pay for :)
 
ChicagoBlue said:
Never forget that these “clubs” are actually an old boys network that loans out players, determines transfer fees and that on field competition is just one of the business relationships they have.

While it is clear there is an actual sporting competition at the heart of the PL, it is increasingly becoming a business, born of business relationships between multi-billionaire megalomaniacs used to getting their own way.

Mansour doesn’t eat at their table and, as such, has become the object of their hate and derision, much like a bad remake of the movie “Means Girls.”

It is not lost on many that City have completely changed the way PL clubs do business, not only domestically, but in their global CFG business, and there’s a reason it is being duplicated.

Just as people seem to think Boehly at Chelsea is a fucking idiot for the way he is running that club, so you have to understand he is a high level billionaire who operates sports franchises across the globe. He has CLEARLY studied PSR and FFP, and determined they have found where the holes in the Swiss cheese line up!

When you think of the money spent, and the results to date, it looks mental, but he can afford to play the long game, which is why they’ve vacuumed up the best young talent they can find, locked it in for 5-7 yrs and brought in a young manager who learned at the feet of the best manager in the world.

Boehly isn’t looking to 2025, he’s looking at 2025-2030…much like Khaldoon spoke of the 10 year Project here.

We assume these clubs all hate each other, just as we want City players to hate United and Liverpool players. NEWSFLASH: They don’t, and (with exceptions) never really have!

The football business makes too much money for too many serious people for there to be internecine warfare. However, they don’t want an outsider, especially one who has no need to play inside THEIR tent, to reap the majority of the spoils.

It’s no secret that the PL want the red shirts to have success, because their success drives the overseas TV revenues based on their legacy from the 2000’s, when global cable TV took off. Mansour and Khaldoon have upset that apple cart and have yet to come to their table to play nice. After this nuke attack, one wonders whether they’ve chosen MAD or believe they can get away with a pre-emptive strike and destroy Mansour. My money says they can’t and will only serve to inflict self-harm!

TBD.
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Great post overall but, you especially will know that the viewing money is in America where I believe we're the most watched side these days...of course tv figures will just follow who is winning but we are top of the tree at the moment.
 
ChicagoBlue said:
Never forget that these “clubs” are actually an old boys network that loans out players, determines transfer fees and that on field competition is just one of the business relationships they have.

While it is clear there is an actual sporting competition at the heart of the PL, it is increasingly becoming a business, born of business relationships between multi-billionaire megalomaniacs used to getting their own way.

Mansour doesn’t eat at their table and, as such, has become the object of their hate and derision, much like a bad remake of the movie “Means Girls.”

It is not lost on many that City have completely changed the way PL clubs do business, not only domestically, but in their global CFG business, and there’s a reason it is being duplicated.

Just as people seem to think Boehly at Chelsea is a fucking idiot for the way he is running that club, so you have to understand he is a high level billionaire who operates sports franchises across the globe. He has CLEARLY studied PSR and FFP, and determined they have found where the holes in the Swiss cheese line up!

When you think of the money spent, and the results to date, it looks mental, but he can afford to play the long game, which is why they’ve vacuumed up the best young talent they can find, locked it in for 5-7 yrs and brought in a young manager who learned at the feet of the best manager in the world.

Boehly isn’t looking to 2025, he’s looking at 2025-2030…much like Khaldoon spoke of the 10 year Project here.

We assume these clubs all hate each other, just as we want City players to hate United and Liverpool players. NEWSFLASH: They don’t, and (with exceptions) never really have!

The football business makes too much money for too many serious people for there to be internecine warfare. However, they don’t want an outsider, especially one who has no need to play inside THEIR tent, to reap the majority of the spoils.

It’s no secret that the PL want the red shirts to have success, because their success drives the overseas TV revenues based on their legacy from the 2000’s, when global cable TV took off. Mansour and Khaldoon have upset that apple cart and have yet to come to their table to play nice. After this nuke attack, one wonders whether they’ve chosen MAD or believe they can get away with a pre-emptive strike and destroy Mansour. My money says they can’t and will only serve to inflict self-harm!

TBD.
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you saw they really were all mate when the fourth division used to vote who stayed in and who got dumped
one for the FOC
 
Damocles said:
Allardyce has always been a rational guy, unfairly maligned due to football style and his accent by the gutter Oxbridge-type press. He practically helped invent modern sports science in this country but history has credited Wenger because "Le Professor" told his players to stop getting pissed the day before a game and he's a "French intellectual" rather than a fat Brummie who played organised football.
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he's not bad with brown envelopes either
 
flook said:
he's not bad with brown envelopes either
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True, but that doesn't make his achievements in the science behind football as any less relevant. He wasn't just one of the first to respect and value the academic side of sports science, he was the first to setup up video analysis, statistics and performance analysis departments at his club too. It was one of his big weapons in finding that extra 5% performance back when everybody thought stats/science was shot and irrelevant to football
 
bobbyowenquiff said:
It shows people like Daniel Levy up for what he is. No wonder Spurs is one of the most underachieving clubs in the world with someone like him at the helm. He has wasted energy on hating City when he should have focused on his own club. The same applies to JW Henry and FSG. City have taken over in the USA. The backyard of FSG and the Glazers.
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It’s not as complicated as that. Those owners you mention wanted to make money out of football and the City model and success has very much frustrated that. They wanted the ‘don’t spend much but have success virtually guaranteed’ model. Win the PL once out twice every 5/6 years, if any upstart threatens that hegemony, take their players and/or take their manager.
Let the PL clubs excluded from the group know that you can happily take their cash away by forming a new league, which is why they can pass any new rule they want.
I think going for a Super League, then openly trying to stop Newcastle and Villa, whilst going after Everton, Forest and Leicester, with the tacit support of the MSM, might have weakened their power base far more than they’ve thought through.
If City are largely exonerated, that groups time as PL kings will be well ands truly over…
 
Absolutely fucking exhausted with this! Can’t get up for any games, wasn’t arsed at the game on Wednesday and given my ticket up for today. I think they’ve finally beaten me. Someone (rag) was doing the usual ‘cheat’ chat last night and I couldn’t be arsed defending us. I’ve done it a thousand times and it’s just boring/monotonous now, especially as the fuckwhits won’t listen to any rational explanation/argument. Probably doesn’t help being autistic, but I’m totally burnt out with it. Just want it over with whatever the outcome.
 
Damocles said:
Allardyce has always been a rational guy, unfairly maligned due to football style and his accent by the gutter Oxbridge-type press. He practically helped invent modern sports science in this country but history has credited Wenger because "Le Professor" told his players to stop getting pissed the day before a game and he's a "French intellectual" rather than a fat Brummie who played organised football.
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Whilst I agree, I remember having a long argument in a friendly way him for about 8 hours (started early on in a round of golf at Doha GC and continued afterwards during beers then back at Andy’s) where he was trying to convince anyone that would listen that football is always 442 in reality and that 433, 451, 4231 etc are just posh ways of saying 442.
 
Keeper! said:
I am not talking about lower level, mainstream media outlets are the issue.
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They still talk about how uefa found us guilty, we got off on a technicality, time barred evidence, and sarcastically put 'innocent' under air quotes when standing outside iut own stadium.

Mate, it's not going away. What do you think, they'll change their tune? Avoid saying incorrect stuff or twisting the outcome? Not make headlines out of stupid shit former players chairmen or managers say?

Get our verdict and hopefully clear the charges, then smile and wave boys. Smile and wave.
 
wattle said:
Absolutely fucking exhausted with this! Can’t get up for any games, wasn’t arsed at the game on Wednesday and given my ticket up for today. I think they’ve finally beaten me. Someone (rag) was doing the usual ‘cheat’ chat last night and I couldn’t be arsed defending us. I’ve done it a thousand times and it’s just boring/monotonous now, especially as the fuckwhits won’t listen to any rational explanation/argument. Probably doesn’t help being autistic, but I’m totally burnt out with it. Just want it over with whatever the outcome.
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You'll have a second wind soon blue.
 
Rory Bluelow said:
With Levy I’m not sure its “hate” as such - just naked self-interest. They’ve an expensive stadium to pay for :)
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It is absolutely “hate” with Levy. He has a strong dislike for us, that goes without saying. Not just for commercial reasons.
And, I know for a fact, he truly hates the Saudis buying Newcastle.
He’s a despicable ****.
 
uwe rosler 28 said:
Well he would be clearing his own name to? As I see it and I may be wrong it's a hearing against us but if we are found guilty I'd imagine other people would have a lot to answer for and that include mancini.
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Mancini hasn't been accused of any wrongdoing
Everyone knows he had an AJ consultancy contract then an MCFC one that ran alongside it
He (his accountant) will have filed his tax return correctly, or he would have been investigated by HMRC at the time
 
bobbyowenquiff said:
It shows people like Daniel Levy up for what he is. No wonder Spurs is one of the most underachieving clubs in the world with someone like him at the helm. He has wasted energy on hating City when he should have focused on his own club. The same applies to JW Henry and FSG. City have taken over in the USA. The backyard of FSG and the Glazers.
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American money investors are all the same, invest for money and return and try to establish monopoly, then moan about unfair competition when their bottom line is threatened. The Glazers have only sold out of United because the competition is too fierce and they still cooked up a deal to keep their 'income'. These are the real parasites and problem in football.

Football should be about football and great moments and we've been given plenty of them. Look at the Wrexham owners, openly clueless but they put football first and look where they are now. It must be bloody exciting to be a Wrexham fan and these dicks in charge of the leagues want to shut these kind of stories down? How much has lower league football benefited indirectly from the Wrexham story? It must be huge but they just don't see it.

You only have to look at the European Super League to know what this is really all about. UEFA said anybody remaining supportive of that new league would be booted out of the CL and who has been booted out or even punished? They no longer care because now it only involves their cashcow and golden boys Real Madrid and Barcelona.
 
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